sieve-Addon cannot connect to sieve server after TB update to version 24

[HolySephi]

Connection worked right before the update. After the update to version 24 the sieve window just tries to connect forever (or loads forever)

There are no messages in the debug console even after turning all sieve debug settings on.

[lkraav]

Yes, seeing the same thing

[lkraav]

Yes, seeing the same thing

[manuelm]

👍

[manuelm]

👍

[tborgans]

same problem here

[tborgans]

same problem here

[thsmi]

Thunderbird introduced numerous API changes which broke Thunderbird's backward compatibility. So everything above Thunderbird 20 is incompatible with the addons 0.2.2 release.

Try the extensions most recent nightly build. You get it at https://github.com/thsmi/sieve/tree/master/nightly .

There is one outstanding bug ( Issue 4) which needs to be fixed before 0.2.3 will be accepted by Mozilla. The addon uses Thunderbirds restartless api. But this api suffers from a design flaw. It does not implement an asynchronous cleanup method. But such a method is needed when dealing with protocols. Which makes a workaround difficult...

As there's no quick fix it's unlikely that 0.2.3 will be release within the next month. So just stick with the nightly build. It should update automatically to 0.2.3 upon release. I leave this bug open until 0.2.3 is released.

[thsmi]

Thunderbird introduced numerous API changes which broke Thunderbird's backward compatibility. So everything above Thunderbird 20 is incompatible with the addons 0.2.2 release.

Try the extensions most recent nightly build. You get it at https://github.com/thsmi/sieve/tree/master/nightly .

There is one outstanding bug ( Issue 4) which needs to be fixed before 0.2.3 will be accepted by Mozilla. The addon uses Thunderbirds restartless api. But this api suffers from a design flaw. It does not implement an asynchronous cleanup method. But such a method is needed when dealing with protocols. Which makes a workaround difficult...

As there's no quick fix it's unlikely that 0.2.3 will be release within the next month. So just stick with the nightly build. It should update automatically to 0.2.3 upon release. I leave this bug open until 0.2.3 is released.

[tborgans]

works for me, thx

[tborgans]

works for me, thx

[cmur2]

Great, the nightly works! Keep up your good work!

[cmur2]

Great, the nightly works! Keep up your good work!

[WhyCantIUseMyEmailAddress]

Also doesn't work on Seamonkey 2.21 and the nightly is apparently not compatible.

[WhyCantIUseMyEmailAddress]

Also doesn't work on Seamonkey 2.21 and the nightly is apparently not compatible.

[thsmi]

Seamokey support was dropped years ago. Because the user base was tiny / non existent (less than 20 active users) and lots of code e.g. the tabbed interface is incompatible to Thunderbird.

But its an open source project, so feel free to submit a patch to restore Seamonkey compatibility.

[thsmi]

Seamokey support was dropped years ago. Because the user base was tiny / non existent (less than 20 active users) and lots of code e.g. the tabbed interface is incompatible to Thunderbird.

But its an open source project, so feel free to submit a patch to restore Seamonkey compatibility.

[stroobandt]

Thanks for the nightly build. This also resolved this issue over here.

[stroobandt]

Thanks for the nightly build. This also resolved this issue over here.

[Merlin90]

Please fix the addon for TB 24, we use this addon at work and can't use a nightly build :/

[Merlin90]

Please fix the addon for TB 24, we use this addon at work and can't use a nightly build :/

[dererk]

I confirm nightly build 0.2.3d (at least) has fix this issue, that is present as for 0.2.2 respects.

Thanks!

[dererk]

I confirm nightly build 0.2.3d (at least) has fix this issue, that is present as for 0.2.2 respects.

Thanks!

[cladmi]

Thank you, the nightly builds works fine. I installed the release version for the fist time a few days ago, and kept looking at what was broken on my server configuration.

This correction should be made available as soon as possible as it may happen to new users, as it happened to me.

[cladmi]

Thank you, the nightly builds works fine. I installed the release version for the fist time a few days ago, and kept looking at what was broken on my server configuration.

This correction should be made available as soon as possible as it may happen to new users, as it happened to me.

[TabTwo]

build 0.2.3d did the trick with v.24.1.1 on OSX

[TabTwo]

build 0.2.3d did the trick with v.24.1.1 on OSX

[wconley]

Build 0.2.3d worked for me also, using Thunderbird 24.2.0 on OpenSuse 11.4. Thanks for the good work!

[wconley]

Build 0.2.3d worked for me also, using Thunderbird 24.2.0 on OpenSuse 11.4. Thanks for the good work!

[dschuermann]

0.2.3d works for me too. Thunderbird 24.3.0 (own install) on Debian stable. Please release a new version as soon as possible to addons.mozilla to fix the current situation :)

[dschuermann]

0.2.3d works for me too. Thunderbird 24.3.0 (own install) on Debian stable. Please release a new version as soon as possible to addons.mozilla to fix the current situation :)

[aletheia7]

sieve-0.2.3d.xpi worked fine for Thunderbird 24.4.0 on Debian testing/jessie.

Please release addon to mozilla.org.

[aletheia7]

sieve-0.2.3d.xpi worked fine for Thunderbird 24.4.0 on Debian testing/jessie.

Please release addon to mozilla.org.

[ToM-MaS]

thmsi, is there any progress in the development of the Sieve extension since the release of sieve-0.2.3d ?
As I understand 0.2.3d will not get accepted by Mozilla until something with shutdown of Thunderbird/Sieve is fixed.
Is there anything the community can do to speed up a solution?
Maybe you can tell us the bug number and URL at Thunderbirds bugzilla for the problem with the missing asynchronous cleanup method for the restartless api.
We all could vote THERE for a fix instead of get on YOUR nerves with this issue.

[ToM-MaS]

thmsi, is there any progress in the development of the Sieve extension since the release of sieve-0.2.3d ?
As I understand 0.2.3d will not get accepted by Mozilla until something with shutdown of Thunderbird/Sieve is fixed.
Is there anything the community can do to speed up a solution?
Maybe you can tell us the bug number and URL at Thunderbirds bugzilla for the problem with the missing asynchronous cleanup method for the restartless api.
We all could vote THERE for a fix instead of get on YOUR nerves with this issue.

[ghost]

Does not work on Iceweasel 24.5.0 (Debian Wheezy's version of Thunderbird 24.5.0).
No messages appear in error console and no actions are performed when 'Edit Filter's button is pressed, and the buttons that show up when you do 'Sieve Message Filters' and get the message that the account is not managed by Sieve (even this it is/does support Sieve and is configured to use Sieve in Iceweasel) have no effect.

[ghost]

Does not work on Iceweasel 24.5.0 (Debian Wheezy's version of Thunderbird 24.5.0).
No messages appear in error console and no actions are performed when 'Edit Filter's button is pressed, and the buttons that show up when you do 'Sieve Message Filters' and get the message that the account is not managed by Sieve (even this it is/does support Sieve and is configured to use Sieve in Iceweasel) have no effect.

[bjarnek]

Can't get it working on Thunderbird 24.6.0 at all. Just hangs on loading even with the nightly release :(

[bjarnek]

Can't get it working on Thunderbird 24.6.0 at all. Just hangs on loading even with the nightly release :(

[HolySephi]

Works fine for me on 24.6.0 - check your sieve server settings

[HolySephi]

Works fine for me on 24.6.0 - check your sieve server settings

[bjarnek]

Sounds plausible but i don't see how i can get some output. Any way of testing it via logs ect to find out if it's the server ?

[bjarnek]

Sounds plausible but i don't see how i can get some output. Any way of testing it via logs ect to find out if it's the server ?

[bjarnek]

I can test Managesieve works just fine from what i can tell in my Telnet session. However the plugin still seems to be non-functional. Will give it a try on another machine shortly, but seems to be just hanging without anything happening.. logs on both server and thunderbird show no activity.

Next step for me is to do a sniff for packages to confirm if the plugin is even trying to connect.

[bjarnek]

I can test Managesieve works just fine from what i can tell in my Telnet session. However the plugin still seems to be non-functional. Will give it a try on another machine shortly, but seems to be just hanging without anything happening.. logs on both server and thunderbird show no activity.

Next step for me is to do a sniff for packages to confirm if the plugin is even trying to connect.

[ghost]

I can tell you that in iceweasel the client doesn't work, but the
command line client I have (sieve-connect) does.

Definitely is a client issue.

Regards,

Danel

On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 03:59 -0700, bjarnek wrote:

I can test Managesieve works just fine from what i can tell in my
Telnet session. However the plugin still seems to be non-functional.
Will give it a try on another machine shortly, but seems to be just
hanging without anything happening.. logs on both server and
thunderbird show no activity.

Next step for me is to do a sniff for packages to confirm if the
plugin is even trying to connect.

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[ghost]

I can tell you that in iceweasel the client doesn't work, but the
command line client I have (sieve-connect) does.

Definitely is a client issue.

Regards,

Danel

On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 03:59 -0700, bjarnek wrote:

I can test Managesieve works just fine from what i can tell in my
Telnet session. However the plugin still seems to be non-functional.
Will give it a try on another machine shortly, but seems to be just
hanging without anything happening.. logs on both server and
thunderbird show no activity.

Next step for me is to do a sniff for packages to confirm if the
plugin is even trying to connect.

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Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

[mfn]

May I suggest to mention this information at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/sieve/ if possibly? Basically, the version there downloadable for everyone does not work at all. Only the nightlies do.

[mfn]

May I suggest to mention this information at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/sieve/ if possibly? Basically, the version there downloadable for everyone does not work at all. Only the nightlies do.

[maiksd]

With TB 31, I can't connect to the sieve server any more, even with 0.2.3d. "Server terminated unepectedly the connection, click on reconnect to try again", which doesn't work of course.

[maiksd]

With TB 31, I can't connect to the sieve server any more, even with 0.2.3d. "Server terminated unepectedly the connection, click on reconnect to try again", which doesn't work of course.

[psychophoniac]

this is still unfixed on thunderbird 31.1.0 (fedora 20), even with the sieve-0.2.3d.xpi nightly build.
My sieve-setup seems to be fine, i can connect via ncat and edit the rules locally on the server.
I get the same error message as maiksd:
"Server terminated unexpectedly the connection, click on reconnect to try again."
It used to work with previous thunderbird versions when you turned off TLS, no it doesn't work anymore, at all.
If you open the debug window you see this:

[...]
----------------------------------
[14:42:47.209 server1] Server -> Client
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 ACL QUOTA LITERAL+ NAMESPACE UIDPLUS CHILDREN LANGUAGE XSENDER X-NETSCAPE XSERVERINFO AUTH=PLAIN] Messaging Multiplexor (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server PtLjSbeu (built n96))
----------------------------------
[14:42:47.209 server1] Parsing Warning in libManageSieve/Sieve.js:
(new String("Implementation expected"))
----------------------------------

...and then it disconnects.
Seems like there is some code not implemented yet, which causes it to close the connection?!

[psychophoniac]

this is still unfixed on thunderbird 31.1.0 (fedora 20), even with the sieve-0.2.3d.xpi nightly build.
My sieve-setup seems to be fine, i can connect via ncat and edit the rules locally on the server.
I get the same error message as maiksd:
"Server terminated unexpectedly the connection, click on reconnect to try again."
It used to work with previous thunderbird versions when you turned off TLS, no it doesn't work anymore, at all.
If you open the debug window you see this:

[...]
----------------------------------
[14:42:47.209 server1] Server -> Client
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 ACL QUOTA LITERAL+ NAMESPACE UIDPLUS CHILDREN LANGUAGE XSENDER X-NETSCAPE XSERVERINFO AUTH=PLAIN] Messaging Multiplexor (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server PtLjSbeu (built n96))
----------------------------------
[14:42:47.209 server1] Parsing Warning in libManageSieve/Sieve.js:
(new String("Implementation expected"))
----------------------------------

...and then it disconnects.
Seems like there is some code not implemented yet, which causes it to close the connection?!

[thsmi]

@psychophoniac :
Please do not hijack bugs. This issues describes that newer Thunderbird version do not connect at all, without any log messages or debug traces. Neither of the previous it true in your case. So please open a new one and attach a full log.

Concerning your issue:
"Implementation expected" does not mean that code is missing. This message indicates, that the server did not respond with the IMPLEMENTATION capability where it should have to.

The ManageSieve RFC defines the following:

Server capabilities are sent automatically by the server upon a
client connection, or after successful STARTTLS and AUTHENTICATE
(which establishes a Simple Authentication and Security Layer (SASL))
commands. 
[...]
Clients MAY request the capabilities at a later time by issuing the
CAPABILITY command described later
[...]
IMPLEMENTATION - Name of implementation and version.  This capability
MUST always be returned by the server.

I can not see from your log sniplet which command caused the OK response but I assume it was the STARTTLS command. If so, your server failed to include his implementation and addon terminated the connection as suggested in the RFC.

[thsmi]

@psychophoniac :
Please do not hijack bugs. This issues describes that newer Thunderbird version do not connect at all, without any log messages or debug traces. Neither of the previous it true in your case. So please open a new one and attach a full log.

Concerning your issue:
"Implementation expected" does not mean that code is missing. This message indicates, that the server did not respond with the IMPLEMENTATION capability where it should have to.

The ManageSieve RFC defines the following:

Server capabilities are sent automatically by the server upon a
client connection, or after successful STARTTLS and AUTHENTICATE
(which establishes a Simple Authentication and Security Layer (SASL))
commands. 
[...]
Clients MAY request the capabilities at a later time by issuing the
CAPABILITY command described later
[...]
IMPLEMENTATION - Name of implementation and version.  This capability
MUST always be returned by the server.

I can not see from your log sniplet which command caused the OK response but I assume it was the STARTTLS command. If so, your server failed to include his implementation and addon terminated the connection as suggested in the RFC.

[HolySephi]

Still works fine on Windows with Thunderbird 31.1.2 and dovecot 2.0.9 on CentOS 6

[HolySephi]

Still works fine on Windows with Thunderbird 31.1.2 and dovecot 2.0.9 on CentOS 6

[IlariExove]

After updating to TB 38 on OS X Sieve add-on can no longer connect to Manaagesieve server. It doesn't even do a TCP SYN. Just loads forever.

[IlariExove]

After updating to TB 38 on OS X Sieve add-on can no longer connect to Manaagesieve server. It doesn't even do a TCP SYN. Just loads forever.

[IlariExove]

An update to my yesterday's comment: updating Sieve to development build 0.2.3f fixes the issue I had with TB 38.

[IlariExove]

An update to my yesterday's comment: updating Sieve to development build 0.2.3f fixes the issue I had with TB 38.

[k0ste]

Move company (~220 collaborators) from Thunderbird Filters to Sieve (with Dovecot 2.2). Use Thunderbird 31...38 with plugin version 0.2.3g. All works like a charm, no any bug.

[k0ste]

Move company (~220 collaborators) from Thunderbird Filters to Sieve (with Dovecot 2.2). Use Thunderbird 31...38 with plugin version 0.2.3g. All works like a charm, no any bug.

[TheJJ]

How's the progress on a new official release? Not many people will want to install the nightly manually.

[TheJJ]

How's the progress on a new official release? Not many people will want to install the nightly manually.

[hasufell]

this is still a problem which is currently rendering the officially released version broken

[hasufell]

this is still a problem which is currently rendering the officially released version broken

[shoeper]

The nightlys in this repo do work.

[shoeper]

The nightlys in this repo do work.

[hasufell]

The nightlys in this repo do work.

which is not an officially released version, see
https://github.com/thsmi/sieve/releases
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/sieve/?src=search

[hasufell]

The nightlys in this repo do work.

which is not an officially released version, see
https://github.com/thsmi/sieve/releases
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/sieve/?src=search

[thsmi]

@hasufell Please stop trolling and bug spamming! I do not accept bug spamming.

There is a detailed explanation in this bug, why there are no releases.Until bug #4 is not fixed there can't be a new release.

It is free and open software. Either help to fix bug #4 or stick with the nightly builds.
If this is not an option for you, stop using it and stop annoying others.

[thsmi]

@hasufell Please stop trolling and bug spamming! I do not accept bug spamming.

There is a detailed explanation in this bug, why there are no releases.Until bug #4 is not fixed there can't be a new release.

It is free and open software. Either help to fix bug #4 or stick with the nightly builds.
If this is not an option for you, stop using it and stop annoying others.

[ToM-MaS]

@thsmi
This bug "Exception upon addon unload #4 - Open - thsmi opened this Issue on 12 Oct 2012" is open for 3 years, is there any progress?
Is progress even possible without this async cleanup method in the Thunderbird API?
Can the community here vote for Thunderbird bug fixing at bugzilla.mozilla.org ?

[ToM-MaS]

@thsmi
This bug "Exception upon addon unload #4 - Open - thsmi opened this Issue on 12 Oct 2012" is open for 3 years, is there any progress?
Is progress even possible without this async cleanup method in the Thunderbird API?
Can the community here vote for Thunderbird bug fixing at bugzilla.mozilla.org ?

[Rocologo]

Version Sieve-0.2.3h.xpi worked fine for me.

[Rocologo]

Version Sieve-0.2.3h.xpi worked fine for me.

[mattelacchiato]

Version Sieve-0.2.3h.xpi worked fine for me.

Same here.

[mattelacchiato]

Version Sieve-0.2.3h.xpi worked fine for me.

Same here.

[thsmi]

Starting with the 0.2.4 release the addon is selfhosted. Which means it is not listed at addons.mozilla.org and has to be installed from the github page but it will update automatically to newer releases.

You can find the 0.2.4 release here: https://github.com/thsmi/sieve/releases

So it seems to be time to close this bug.

[thsmi]

Starting with the 0.2.4 release the addon is selfhosted. Which means it is not listed at addons.mozilla.org and has to be installed from the github page but it will update automatically to newer releases.

You can find the 0.2.4 release here: https://github.com/thsmi/sieve/releases

So it seems to be time to close this bug.