Congressional Congress #2 mods #1

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Lots of good discussion from everyone!

Biggest changes:

  • Weeding out some of my verboseness (which, although lovely, is a bit superfluous)
  • Remove some of the focus on current events, especially at the end, and make it feel more timeless
    • We hope to keep these states for longer than just a couple years, right? 😄 🇺🇸

Give it a lookover, and please make sure I didn't miss anything!

jeffersonthomas added some commits Jul 1, 2016
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Seeing differences between versions will be nicer for some of these b…
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@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Focus on content, not style - removing my capitalized first words 17071fb
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Still standardizing these grammar rules e03b934
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas No need to mention it's a self-assumed power
But "eat out their substance" got laughs and agreement!
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@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas No need to mention inherent
We decided "certain" is okay to say, since they're not necessarily inherent
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@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Life, Liberty, and Happiness (or the pursuit of it) - whoops, can't f…
…orget that!
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@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Removing ships of war - we can confirm armies, but maybe not the ships cb7e2d4
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Tighten up complaint about injuries and usurpations, and eliminate so…
…me other verbosity

Also added commas.
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@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Okay, continually is maybe over the top. dd9227a
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Justice has not TOTALLY ceased; scaling back a little more of my init…
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@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Minor formatting 432f2b0
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Use the term colonies; the crown's people will better understand 57d3eee
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas The king has waged war on us - point it out! 59ea794
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Move earlier that we've petitioned for redress, and get rid of the tw…
…elve years thing

This should be timeless, so let's not talk too many specifics about years.
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@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Make another reference to timelessness - we liked "barbarous ages" fa72277
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas More rolling back of superlatives - we still have some trials by jury dea60fa
@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Point out how problems have happened internally to us, let alone exte…
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@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas The current details are still less important than the more overarchin…
…g, long-term picture
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@jeffersonthomas jeffersonthomas Take a little humbleness and appeal to a higher power; also mention B…
…ritish Crown, not kings of Great Britain
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@johnadams1776 johnadams1776 commented on the diff Jul 1, 2016
README.md
-FOR depriving us of the benefits of trial by jury
+For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
@johnadams1776
johnadams1776 Jul 1, 2016

These injuries are not vestigial or imaginary, but incalculable sins perpetrated upon the citizens of this great Nation as we speak.

@karlbecker karlbecker commented on an outdated diff Jul 1, 2016
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ He has refused for a long time after such dissolutions to cause others to be ele
He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners, refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, & raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.
-He has suffered the administration of justice totally to cease in some of these states refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.
@karlbecker
karlbecker Jul 1, 2016

I might have misread this as the KING had suffered - good change, @jeffersonthomas !

@big-ben-franklin big-ben-franklin commented on the diff Jul 1, 2016
README.md
-WE hold these Truths to be self-evident: that all Men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness: that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, & to institute new government, laying it’s foundation on such principles, & organizing it’s powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness. Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light & transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses & usurpations begun at a distinguished period and pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government, & to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; & such is now the necessity which constrains them to expunge their former systems of government. The history of the present king of Great Britain is a history of unremitting injuries & usurpations, among which appears no solitary fact to contradict the uniform tenor of the rest but all have in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this let facts be submitted to a candid world for the truth of which we pledge a faith yet unsullied by falsehood.
+We hold these truths to be self-evident:
+that all men are created equal,
+that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
+that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,
@big-ben-franklin
big-ben-franklin Jul 1, 2016

John Locke in his infinite wisdom taught us the never ending principles of "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Property". But what is the "Pursuit of Property" but the unending quest to elevate one's self to a place of productive leisure? To pursue happiness in its full glory!

@calasyr
calasyr Jul 2, 2016

Locke used the phrase "life, liberty and property", from what I remember. Not "pursuit of property".

@Decker-Mage
Decker-Mage Jul 3, 2016 edited

“Persuit of Happiness" has nothing to do with leisure. At the time this was written, your pursuit was your profession and no one had the right to forbid you from practicing it. [By the wayside now as many professions require a license.]

@big-ben-franklin big-ben-franklin commented on the diff Jul 1, 2016
README.md
-He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it’s most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobium of INFIDEL Powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. Determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce. And that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people on whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the LIBERTIES of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the LIVES of another.
+He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither.
+This piratical warfare, the opprobium of INFIDEL Powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain.
+Determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce. And that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people on whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the LIBERTIES of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the LIVES of another.
@big-ben-franklin
big-ben-franklin Jul 1, 2016

This is all true, passionate and well said. But could cut both ways since they found a market on our shores and the southern delegate has already expressed their intent to reopen the trade. Better to leave this part out.

@digitaldesigndj
digitaldesigndj commented Jul 2, 2016 edited

Wheres the 🍺? I do believe that 🍻 were essential to the congress of the united states of america. (well, prohibition was a thing after all...) My 2¢...

@jtnelson jtnelson commented on the diff Jul 2, 2016
README.md
-WE hold these Truths to be self-evident: that all Men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness: that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, & to institute new government, laying it’s foundation on such principles, & organizing it’s powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness. Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light & transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses & usurpations begun at a distinguished period and pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government, & to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; & such is now the necessity which constrains them to expunge their former systems of government. The history of the present king of Great Britain is a history of unremitting injuries & usurpations, among which appears no solitary fact to contradict the uniform tenor of the rest but all have in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this let facts be submitted to a candid world for the truth of which we pledge a faith yet unsullied by falsehood.
+We hold these truths to be self-evident:
+that all men are created equal,
@jtnelson
jtnelson Jul 2, 2016

What about equality for slaves? Or women? Or the poor? Or basically anyone that is not a white-male farmer?

@ebelinski
ebelinski Jul 2, 2016

We'll save that for another PR.

@will-horning
will-horning Jul 2, 2016

Those are on the roadmap for revisions 13, 14, 15 and 19.

@Ajedi32
Ajedi32 Jul 2, 2016

@will-horning This is actually the declaration of independence, not the constitution.

@will-horning
will-horning Jul 2, 2016

And Ben Franklin didn't have a github account (he used bitbucket just to be contrarian).

@ForestMars
ForestMars Jul 4, 2016 edited

Given Franklin's inventiveness (and independent mindedness) my assumption is he ran his own git server.

@thehumantaurch
thehumantaurch Jul 6, 2016 edited

"Imma compel him to include women in the sequel #WERK" - A.Ham

@Ajedi32
Ajedi32 commented Jul 2, 2016 edited

This is such a cool idea! It'd be great if we could lock this PR and remove comments from non-historical figures (including mine) to cut down on noise. Some notes about the historical accuracy of the exact text of these revisions and statements from the founding fathers would also be great.

(Also, why are there 2 John Adams? @johnadams1776 @adams17761?)

@karlbecker

Hey @Ajedi32 ,
Sorry for the slow reply - the two John Adams was a typo from when we created the accounts. It's fixed now.
A historical accuracy noted version would indeed be great - feel free to anyone to make a new PR!

@dionyziz dionyziz commented on the diff Jul 4, 2016
README.md
-HE has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome & necessary for the public good.
+He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome & necessary for the public good.
@Ajedi32
Ajedi32 Jul 4, 2016

Pretty sure the King was a guy... 😝

@dionyziz
dionyziz Jul 4, 2016

King or queen

@Ajedi32
Ajedi32 Jul 4, 2016

Pretty sure the "present King of Great Britain" at the time was a King, not a Queen...

@dionyziz
dionyziz Jul 4, 2016

Alright, alright.

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In README.md
#1 (comment):

-HE has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome & necessary for the public good.
+He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome & necessary for the public good.

Pretty sure the "present King of Great Britain" at the time was a King,
not a Queen...


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sakserv commented Jul 9, 2016

LGTM!

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