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| <main><section><div class="container"><div class="row"><div class="col-md-8 col-md-offset-2"><h1>Verifiable Claims Telecon</h1> | ||
| <h2>Minutes for 2016-03-08</h2> | ||
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| <dt>Agenda</dt><dd><a href="https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments-ig/2016Mar/0007.html">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments-ig/2016Mar/0007.html</a></dd> | ||
| <dt>Topics</dt><dd><ol><li><a href="#topic-1">Draft Charter Proposal</a><li><a href="#topic-2">Material for W3C Advisory Committe Meeting at MIT</a><li><a href="#topic-3">Use Cases Document</a><li><a href="#topic-4">Expected Timeline for VCTF Charter Review</a></ol></dd><dt>Action Items</dt><dd><ol><li><a href="#action-1">John Tibbetts to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</a><li><a href="#action-2">Dan Burnett to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</a><li><a href="#action-3">dezell Ezell to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</a><li><a href="#action-4">Matt Stone to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</a><li><a href="#action-5">Eric Korb to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</a></ol></dd><dt>Organizer</dt><dd>Manu Sporny</dd> | ||
| <dt>Scribe</dt><dd>Matt Stone</dd> | ||
| <dt>Present</dt><dd><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stonematt">Matt Stone</a>, <a href="http://manu.sporny.org/about">Manu Sporny</a>, <a href="http://kinexis.com/">John Tibbetts</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/daburnett">Daniel C. Burnett</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-ezell-4b9ba27">David Ezell</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickorb">Eric Korb</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/halindrome">Shane McCarron</a>, <a href="https://github.com/dlongley">Dave Longley</a>, <a href="https://de.linkedin.com/in/hoffmannpe">Peter Hofman</a>, <a href="https://www.pearson.com/">Colleen Kennedy</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimgoodell">Jim Goodell</a>, <a href="http://dil.lehn.org/">David I. Lehn</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmweaver">Jason Weaver</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=5346460">Rob Trainer</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartsutton">Stuart Sutton</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-delorenzo-307a9322">Bill DeLorenzo</a></dd> | ||
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| <div class="information">Matt Stone is scribing.</div> | ||
| <h1 id="topic-1" class="topic">Topic: Draft Charter Proposal</h1> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-1').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-1').show()" id="1" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: <a href="http://w3c.github.io/vctf/charter/proposal.html">http://w3c.github.io/vctf/charter/proposal.html</a> <a id="link-1" style="display:none;" href="#1">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-2').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-2').show()" id="2" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Hoping to circulate charter at upcoming AC meeting <a id="link-2" style="display:none;" href="#2">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-3').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-3').show()" id="3" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Anyone sent in review comments? <a id="link-3" style="display:none;" href="#3">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-4').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-4').show()" id="4" class="information">Crickets... only Ian Jacobs. <a id="link-4" style="display:none;" href="#4">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-5').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-5').show()" id="5" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Need more focus on the charter - please review by Friday!! <a id="link-5" style="display:none;" href="#5">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-6').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-6').show()" id="6" class="comment"><span class="name">John Tibbetts</span>: I'll respond by Friday <a id="link-6" style="display:none;" href="#6">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-7').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-7').show()" id="7" class="comment"><span class="name">Daniel C. Burnett</span>: Manu, I have skimmed but will review by Friday <a id="link-7" style="display:none;" href="#7">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-8').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-8').show()" id="8" class="comment"><span class="name">David Ezell</span>: Thank you for all the work" -- there are a couple places where charter could be more assertive and others where it may be over assertive <a id="link-8" style="display:none;" href="#8">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div id="action-1" class="action">ACTION: John Tibbetts to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</div> | ||
| <div id="action-2" class="action">ACTION: Dan Burnett to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-9').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-9').show()" id="9" class="comment"><span class="name">David Ezell</span>: Eg: protocol should do "such and such" may be better to read "could" unless it's a real requirement <a id="link-9" style="display:none;" href="#9">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-10').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-10').show()" id="10" class="comment"><span class="name">Eric Korb</span>: Should or could to "may"? <a id="link-10" style="display:none;" href="#10">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div id="action-3" class="action">ACTION: dezell Ezell to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</div> | ||
| <div id="action-4" class="action">ACTION: Matt Stone to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-11').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-11').show()" id="11" class="comment"><span class="name">Eric Korb</span>: Korb will review by Friday <a id="link-11" style="display:none;" href="#11">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-12').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-12').show()" id="12" class="comment"><span class="name">Matt Stone</span>: I will review by friday as well <a id="link-12" style="display:none;" href="#12">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div id="action-5" class="action">ACTION: Eric Korb to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-13').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-13').show()" id="13" class="information">Manu will move charter to webpayments IG space <a id="link-13" style="display:none;" href="#13">✪</a></div> | ||
| <h1 id="topic-2" class="topic">Topic: Material for W3C Advisory Committe Meeting at MIT</h1> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-14').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-14').show()" id="14" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Thinking it might be good to have small handouts of overview and links? <a id="link-14" style="display:none;" href="#14">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-15').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-15').show()" id="15" class="comment"><span class="name">Shane McCarron</span>: No, I am here - be on the call in a second <a id="link-15" style="display:none;" href="#15">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-16').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-16').show()" id="16" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Not getting anytime on the public timeline - not doing breakout discussions in AC meeting. will have to have curbside discussions <a id="link-16" style="display:none;" href="#16">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-17').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-17').show()" id="17" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: <a href="https://www.w3.org/Member/Meeting/2016ac/March/Agenda.html">https://www.w3.org/Member/Meeting/2016ac/March/Agenda.html</a> <a id="link-17" style="display:none;" href="#17">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-18').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-18').show()" id="18" class="comment"><span class="name">David Ezell</span>: Handouts are unusual - if it's the size of the business card it may be well received - as a marketing concept we might want to make it a "verifiable claim" :) <a id="link-18" style="display:none;" href="#18">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-19').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-19').show()" id="19" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Should pull the IG in next week - timeline is VERY short. <a id="link-19" style="display:none;" href="#19">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-20').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-20').show()" id="20" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Asking for "informal" review to socialize the charter before the official review <a id="link-20" style="display:none;" href="#20">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-21').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-21').show()" id="21" class="information">Manu & dezell will discuss plan offline this week to get this on the radar at AC <a id="link-21" style="display:none;" href="#21">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-22').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-22').show()" id="22" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: If we have an artifact to circulate - we'll have initial charter, minimal use cases, perhaps this business card thing. anything else? <a id="link-22" style="display:none;" href="#22">✪</a></div> | ||
| <h1 id="topic-3" class="topic">Topic: Use Cases Document</h1> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-23').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-23').show()" id="23" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: <a href="http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/use-cases/">http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/use-cases/</a> <a id="link-23" style="display:none;" href="#23">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-24').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-24').show()" id="24" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Shane reviewed the use cases and winnowed it down to use cases that support the focused charter - target about 6-8 cases <a id="link-24" style="display:none;" href="#24">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-25').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-25').show()" id="25" class="comment"><span class="name">Shane McCarron</span>: Styled and edited so it's a more readable narrative - needs a review from this group <a id="link-25" style="display:none;" href="#25">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-26').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-26').show()" id="26" class="comment"><span class="name">Matt Stone</span>: +1 On the diagrams. <a id="link-26" style="display:none;" href="#26">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-27').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-27').show()" id="27" class="comment"><span class="name">Matt Stone</span>: Thanks for the diagrams, appreciate the addition of those. [scribe assist by Manu Sporny] <a id="link-27" style="display:none;" href="#27">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-28').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-28').show()" id="28" class="comment"><span class="name">John Tibbetts</span>: I reviewed them probably while Shane was modifying them. <a id="link-28" style="display:none;" href="#28">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-29').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-29').show()" id="29" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Concern that b/c it's so winnowed down - we haven't gone through the exercise to map this to what we actually want when the WG is done. <a id="link-29" style="display:none;" href="#29">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-30').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-30').show()" id="30" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Please read through the document with that in mind. <a id="link-30" style="display:none;" href="#30">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-31').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-31').show()" id="31" class="comment"><span class="name">John Tibbetts</span>: The use cases for education are a less compelling. "i think a solid claim about something like an electonic transcript" might be a scenario to add <a id="link-31" style="display:none;" href="#31">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-32').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-32').show()" id="32" class="comment"><span class="name">Shane McCarron</span>: <a href="http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/use-cases/#uc-consuming-verifiability">http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/use-cases/#uc-consuming-verifiability</a> <a id="link-32" style="display:none;" href="#32">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-33').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-33').show()" id="33" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Looking for a scenario in section 4.1 where issuer is focus? <a id="link-33" style="display:none;" href="#33">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-34').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-34').show()" id="34" class="comment"><span class="name">Dave Longley</span>: +1 To adding something about e-transcripts to 4.1.1 <a id="link-34" style="display:none;" href="#34">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-35').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-35').show()" id="35" class="comment"><span class="name">Shane McCarron</span>: Okay that's great feedback john - thanks! <a id="link-35" style="display:none;" href="#35">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-36').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-36').show()" id="36" class="comment"><span class="name">Dave Longley</span>: +1 To adding it because it does highlight how this is different from what you can already do with things like OpenID Connect as John said <a id="link-36" style="display:none;" href="#36">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-37').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-37').show()" id="37" class="comment"><span class="name">Dave Longley</span>: Typo: "Credentials COmmunity Groups" <a id="link-37" style="display:none;" href="#37">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-38').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-38').show()" id="38" class="comment"><span class="name">Dave Longley</span>: (Errant capital 'O') <a id="link-38" style="display:none;" href="#38">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-39').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-39').show()" id="39" class="comment"><span class="name">Dave Longley</span>: (In the Intro) <a id="link-39" style="display:none;" href="#39">✪</a></div> | ||
| <h1 id="topic-4" class="topic">Topic: Expected Timeline for VCTF Charter Review</h1> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-40').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-40').show()" id="40" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Neither use cases or charter are set in stone until sent for offical review. read and give feedback <a id="link-40" style="display:none;" href="#40">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-41').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-41').show()" id="41" class="comment"><span class="name">Shane McCarron</span>: Thanks for the typo comment dlongley - fixed in my patch branch now <a id="link-41" style="display:none;" href="#41">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-42').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-42').show()" id="42" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Looks like late may/early june for review <a id="link-42" style="display:none;" href="#42">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-43').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-43').show()" id="43" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: "If things go well in the socialization process" <a id="link-43" style="display:none;" href="#43">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-44').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-44').show()" id="44" class="comment"><span class="name">David Ezell</span>: Would have more confidence if Eric had joined us today - sound like a reasonable time frame. needs enough meat in it to warrant the activity <a id="link-44" style="display:none;" href="#44">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-45').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-45').show()" id="45" class="comment"><span class="name">David Ezell</span>: Also make sure there aren't any bombshells and get people in the IG to go on record in support of it <a id="link-45" style="display:none;" href="#45">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-46').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-46').show()" id="46" class="comment"><span class="name">Shane McCarron</span>: Sorry if I missed this - when are we planning to circle back with the interviewees and survey respondents? <a id="link-46" style="display:none;" href="#46">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-47').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-47').show()" id="47" class="comment"><span class="name">David Ezell</span>: "On record" really means "supportive" <a id="link-47" style="display:none;" href="#47">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-48').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-48').show()" id="48" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Shane, yes, we are circling back around w/ them. <a id="link-48" style="display:none;" href="#48">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-49').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-49').show()" id="49" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Will start filling out a FAQ before we go to official review <a id="link-49" style="display:none;" href="#49">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-50').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-50').show()" id="50" class="comment"><span class="name">Shane McCarron</span>: Does it make sense to try to do anyting during the F2F of the payments people in June? <a id="link-50" style="display:none;" href="#50">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-51').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-51').show()" id="51" class="comment"><span class="name">David Ezell</span>: IG expressed interest in having a F2F this summer. not sure where/when <a id="link-51" style="display:none;" href="#51">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-52').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-52').show()" id="52" class="comment"><span class="name">David Ezell</span>: Perhaps in London during 2nd week of june <a id="link-52" style="display:none;" href="#52">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-53').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-53').show()" id="53" class="comment"><span class="name">David Ezell</span>: It's a pretty good milestone to organize this around <a id="link-53" style="display:none;" href="#53">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-54').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-54').show()" id="54" class="comment"><span class="name">Manu Sporny</span>: Anything else? no? thanks all. please complete reviews by EOW <a id="link-54" style="display:none;" href="#54">✪</a></div> | ||
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