Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

Non-welcoming language on heyguys.cc #17

Open
nkuttler opened this issue Dec 26, 2019 · 1 comment
Open

Non-welcoming language on heyguys.cc #17

nkuttler opened this issue Dec 26, 2019 · 1 comment

Comments

@nkuttler
Copy link

@nkuttler nkuttler commented Dec 26, 2019

Unfortunately I have made the experience that the text on heyguys.cc uses non-welcoming language. Starting off with '"Hey guys" is a common salutation, but it's not gender neutral.' is non-welcoming because it is factually incomplete. The statement can lead to controversy when the site is linked to because people for whom "hey guys" is a non-gendered salutation can feel excluded and not welcome, and they may not be very receptive for the rest of the text.

I think it would be better to promote non-gendered language with a more welcoming text, something like

"Hey guys" is a common salutation, but it's not gender neutral for everybody. While it is non-gendered to some, people who aren't men can feel excluded when addressed as "guys".

I would also remove the part "even if that is not the intent". Miscommunication needs two parties, and it is caused by the speaker and the listener having a different understanding of "guys". The current intent statement blames only the speaker for the miscommunication, I tried to make my example above blameless instead, but I'm sure it's not perfect either.

I think with a few minor changes the text could be more welcoming and more people would react positively to it.

@nkuttler

This comment has been minimized.

Copy link
Author

@nkuttler nkuttler commented Dec 29, 2019

I think it would also be good to remove the source "Hacking inclusion: How we customized a bot to gently correct people who use the word ‘guys’, Maya Benari, 18F.". Like mentioned above, putting the blame for miscommunication on one side only is not welcoming.

Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Projects
None yet
1 participant
You can’t perform that action at this time.