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<date>1925-08-21</date>
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<chamber>REPS</chamber>
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<para>House of Representatives. </para>
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<day.start>1925-08-21</day.start>
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<inline font-weight="bold">Mr.</inline>Speaker (Rt Hon. W. A. Watt) took the chair at 11 a.m., and read prayers. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
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<title>LEAGUE OF NATIONS PROTOCOL</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
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<page.no>1645</page.no>
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<electorate>NORTH SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
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<name role="metadata">HUGHES, William Morris</name>
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<para>- In order that the opinion of the Government and the Parliament may be known before the meeting of the Sixth Assembly of the League of Nations at Geneva, will the Prime Minister afford the House an opportunity for a reasonable discussion of the Protocol, and the full and able report by Australia's two delegates to the Fifth Assembly ? If so, will the right honorable gentleman give sufficient notice of the day to be set apart for the discussion, so that honorable members may have an opportunity to prepare for it? </para>
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<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>F4B</name.id>
<electorate>FLINDERS, VICTORIA</electorate>
<party>NAT</party>
<role>Minister for External Affairs</role>
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<name role="metadata">BRUCE, Stanley</name>
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<para>- I think it would be advisable to discuss the report of Australia's delegates to the Fifth Assembly in conjunction with the agenda for the Sixth Assembly. An opportunity to do that will be afforded the House. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
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<title>OLD-AGE PENSIONS</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
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<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KZA</name.id>
<electorate>EAST SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
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<name role="metadata">WEST, John Edward</name>
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<para>- In a newspaper the Treasurer is reported to have said that the Government proposes to increase the oldage pension to £1 per week at once. Will the Treasurer say whether or not that statement is correct? </para>
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<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>C7E</name.id>
<electorate>COWPER, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
<party>CP</party>
<role>Treasurer</role>
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<name role="metadata">PAGE, Earle</name>
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<para>- The financial policy of the Government is to be found in my budget speech, and not in a newspaper report. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
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<subdebate.1>
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<title>CATTLE TICK ERADICATION</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
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<talker>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KFA</name.id>
<electorate>RICHMOND, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
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<name role="metadata">GREEN, Roland</name>
<name role="display">Mr R GREEN</name>
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<para>- On several occasions I have asked questions concerning the eradication of the cattle tick, and the Treasurer referred to the subject in his budget speech. Has his attention been drawn to a statement by the Honorable W. F. Dunn, Minister for Agriculture, in New South Wales, and criticisms in the press of that state regarding the alleged dilatoriness of the Commonwealth Government in dealing with this problem. </para>
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<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>C7E</name.id>
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<name role="metadata">PAGE, Earle</name>
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<para>- The matter has been considered by the Government, and I hope to make a full statement in regard to it on the motion for adjournment this afternoon. </para>
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</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
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<title>AMENDING ARBITRATION BILL</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<type>bill</type>
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<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>JZK</name.id>
<electorate>REID, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
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<name role="metadata">COLEMAN, Percy</name>
<name role="display">Mr COLEMAN</name>
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<para>- The statement has been made that the Government proposes to introduce a bill to amend the Arbitration Act. Is it a fact that various individual employers, as well as employers' organizations, have been consulted by the Government, and invited to express their views regarding desirable amendments? If so, will the Government at least give a similar opportunity to trade unions registered under the act? </para>
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<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>F4B</name.id>
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<party>NAT</party>
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<name role="metadata">BRUCE, Stanley</name>
<name role="display">Mr BRUCE</name>
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<para>- The Government has not consulted any outside persons or organizations regarding proposed legislation, but it has received, from time to time, many representations from employers' organizations, and also, I think, from representatives of workers, regarding desirableimprovements in the Arbitration Act. The Government welcomes such representations or suggestions from any source. </para>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<type>Questions</type>
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<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>WAR DISABILITIES ROYAL COMMISSION</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
</subdebateinfo>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>JUB</name.id>
<electorate>BRISBANE. QLD</electorate>
<party>NAT</party>
<role />
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">CAMERON, Donald Charles</name>
<name role="display">Mr D CAMERON</name>
</talker>
<para>- When will the Minister for Repatriation inform the House of the decisions of the Government upon the recommendations of the War Disabilities Royal Commission? </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KI7</name.id>
<electorate>CALARE, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
<party>NAT</party>
<role>Minister for Defence</role>
<in.gov>1</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">HOWSE, Neville</name>
<name role="display">Sir NEVILLE HOWSE</name>
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<para>- I tope to make a full statement later this day (vide page 1667). </para>
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</subdebate.1>
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<debate>
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<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<type>Questions</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>VALIDITY OF COMMONWEALTH LAWS</title>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
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<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>JZK</name.id>
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<name role="metadata">COLEMAN, Percy</name>
<name role="display">Mr COLEMAN</name>
</talker>
<para>- In view of the serious position created by a recent decision of the High Court in regard to the validity of certain Commonwealth laws, what action does the Government propose to take? </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1645</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KFK</name.id>
<electorate>DARLING DOWNS, QUEENSLAND</electorate>
<party>NAT</party>
<role>Attorney-General</role>
<in.gov>1</in.gov>
<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">GROOM, Littleton</name>
<name role="display">Sir LITTLETON GROOM</name>
</talker>
<para>- A printed copy of the judgment, which was only recently made available, is being carefully examined by the law officers of the Commonwealth in order to ascertain its effect upon existing statutes. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<type>miscellaneous</type>
</debateinfo>
<para>Report on Oil Exploration - Development and Refining. </para>
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<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>JOG</name.id>
<electorate>OXLEY, QUEENSLAND</electorate>
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<role />
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">BAYLEY, James</name>
<name role="display">Mr BAYLEY</name>
</talker>
<para>- I present the report of the Public Accounts Committee upon the Commonwealth expenditure on oil exploration, development, refining, &c., in Australia and Papua, Part I, comprising introduction, committee's proceedings, oil exploration in Papua, and oil exploration work in Australia. Part II. is in course of preparation, and will deal with shale oil, liquid fuels, power alcohol, &c., and the operations of the Commonwealth oil refineries. </para>
</talk.start>
<para>Ordered to be printed. </para>
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</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<type>Questions</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>PHILIPPINES CATTLE TRADE</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
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<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KMS</name.id>
<electorate>MACQUARIE, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
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<role />
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">MANNING, Arthur</name>
<name role="display">Mr MANNING</name>
</talker>
<para>- Is the Prime Minister aware that the Philippines Government grants a tariff preference to cattle imported from China as against cattle imported from Australia? Will the right honorable gentleman consider the advisability of communicating with the Government of the United States of America with a view to having Australian cattle placed on the same fiscal footing as cattle imported from China. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>F4B</name.id>
<electorate />
<party>NAT</party>
<role />
<in.gov>1</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">BRUCE, Stanley</name>
<name role="display">Mr BRUCE</name>
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<para>- I shall have the matter inquired into, with a view to making representations to the United States Government, if that course is considered desirable. </para>
</talk.start>
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</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>CANNED FRUITS</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<type>miscellaneous</type>
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<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KMU</name.id>
<electorate>WENTWORTH, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
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<in.gov>0</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">MARKS, Walter</name>
<name role="display">Mr MARKS</name>
</talker>
<para>- I call the attention of the Minister representing the Minister for Markets and Migration to the following cable message from London, published in the <inline font-style="italic">Sun Pictorial</inline> of the 19th August : - </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
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<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>CANNED FRUITS</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
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<para>London, Tuesday. - " The grading and packing of Australian dried and canned fruits have considerably improved recently," said the chairman of the Army and Navy Stores, in an interview with the <inline font-style="italic">Pictorial</inline> representative. " Packers and shippers, however, must constantly make improvements to keep pace with California," he continued. " The Dominions' shortest and easiest method for making inroads in the British market is to send only the highest quality goods." " Australian cheese," he added, " is of poor quality, and needs much improvement." </para>
<para class="block">During my recent visit to London, California, China, and Japan, I closely investigated this matter, and received similar advice from buyers and retailers. In view of the interest which is being taken in the Motherland in the marketing and distribution of Australian produce, will the Minister for Markets and Migration direct the attention of canners and packers to that very important statement. </para>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>JMG</name.id>
<electorate>WILMOT, TASMANIA</electorate>
<party>CP</party>
<role>Vice-President of the Executive Council</role>
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">ATKINSON, Llewelyn</name>
<name role="display">Mr ATKINSON</name>
</talker>
<para>- I shall bring the matter under the notice of the Minister for Markets and Migration. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>POSSESSION ISLAND</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<type>miscellaneous</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>Memorial to Captain Cook</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
</subdebateinfo>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>JNV</name.id>
<electorate>HERBERT, QUEENSLAND</electorate>
<party />
<role />
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">BAMFORD, Frederick</name>
<name role="display">Mr BAMFORD</name>
</talker>
<para>- Will the Prime Ministersay whetherthe Government proposes to take any action in regard to a letter sent by <inline font-weight="bold">Mr. Corrin,</inline> Mayor of Thursday Island, asking that a memorial be built on Possession Island, which was the last land at which Captain Cook touched before leaving Australian waters. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>F4B</name.id>
<electorate />
<party>NAT</party>
<role />
<in.gov>1</in.gov>
<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">BRUCE, Stanley</name>
<name role="display">Mr BRUCE</name>
</talker>
<para>- I received the letter to which the honorable member refers, and the request is under consideration. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<type>Questions</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>PASSPORTS</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
</subdebateinfo>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>JXA</name.id>
<electorate>HUNTER, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
<party />
<role />
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">CHARLTON, Matthew</name>
<name role="display">Mr CHARLTON</name>
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<para>asked the Prime Minister, <inline font-style="italic">upon notice -</inline></para>
</talk.start>
<list type="decimal-dotted">
<item label="1.">
<para>Is it a fact, as reported, that the Government has been in communication with the Imperial authorities on the question of the discontinuance of passports? </para>
</item>
<item label="2.">
<para>If so, what was the recommendation of the Commonwealth Government? </para>
</item>
</list>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>F4B</name.id>
<electorate />
<party>NAT</party>
<role />
<in.gov>1</in.gov>
<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">BRUCE, Stanley</name>
<name role="display">Mr BRUCE</name>
</talker>
<para>- The Government has not been in communication with the Imperial authorities on this matter, nor has any request been received from the Imperial Government for the views of the Commonwealth Government on the question. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<type>Questions</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>PROHIBITED IMMIGRANT</title>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
</subdebateinfo>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KX9</name.id>
<electorate>through Mr. Fenton</electorate>
<party />
<role />
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">WATKINS, David</name>
<name role="display">Mr WATKINS</name>
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<para>asked the Prime Minister, <inline font-style="italic">upon notice -</inline></para>
</talk.start>
<quote>
<para>Will he state under what law a person was recently declared a prohibited immigrant in Sydney, although such person was born in Sydney? </para>
</quote>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1646</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>F4B</name.id>
<electorate />
<party>NAT</party>
<role />
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<name role="metadata">BRUCE, Stanley</name>
<name role="display">Mr BRUCE</name>
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<para>- There have been several cases during the past few months where Chinese, who claim to have been born in Australia, but who were taken to China at a very early age, have arrived at Sydney, after having admittedly been absent from Australia for periods ranging from 20 to 35 years, and have been refused permission to land on failing to pass a dictation test applied to them under the provisions of the Immigration Act. One such case came before the High Court on the 17th April, 1925, and that court decided that the real home of the Chinese woman in question was not in Australia but in China, and that she was clearly an immigrant within the meaning of the act. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<type>Questions</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>COMMONWEALTH GOVERNMENT SHIPPING LINE</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
</subdebateinfo>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>JXA</name.id>
<electorate />
<party />
<role />
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<name role="metadata">CHARLTON, Matthew</name>
<name role="display">Mr CHARLTON</name>
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<para>asked the Prime Minister, <inline font-style="italic">upon notice -</inline></para>
</talk.start>
<list type="decimal-dotted">
<item label="1.">
<para>Will he furnish a return showing the total value of stores purchased for the Commonwealth steamers from 1st July, 1924, to date, giving details of the countries from which they were obtained? </para>
</item>
<item label="2.">
<para>Willhe also supply information as to the total number of steamers in the Commonwealth Line, and how many have Australian commanders? </para>
</item>
</list>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>F4B</name.id>
<electorate />
<party>NAT</party>
<role />
<in.gov>1</in.gov>
<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">BRUCE, Stanley</name>
<name role="display">Mr BRUCE</name>
</talker>
<para>- These are matters tinder the control of the Australian Commonwealth Shipping Board, to which body the honorable member's questions have been referred. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<type>Questions</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>DINGOES IN FEDERAL TERRITORY</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
</subdebateinfo>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KEQ</name.id>
<electorate>RIVERINA, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
<party />
<role />
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">KILLEN, William</name>
<name role="display">Mr KILLEN</name>
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<para>asked the Minister representing the Minister for Home and Territories, <inline font-style="italic">upon notice -</inline></para>
</talk.start>
<quote>
<para>Has he any later information than that supplied byhim, in answer to the question of the honorable member forRiverina, on 26th June, concerning the destruction of wild dogs in the Federal Territory, as serious complaints continue to be made by sheep-owners in the locality of damage done to their flocks by wild dogs bred in the Federal Territory? </para>
</quote>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KMW</name.id>
<electorate>PARKES, NEW SOUTH WALES</electorate>
<party>NAT</party>
<role>Honorary Minister</role>
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<name role="metadata">MARR, Charles</name>
<name role="display">Mr MARR</name>
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<para>- No additional information has been received from the Federal Capital Commission concerning the destruction of wild dogs in the Federal Capital Territory; but the Commission has been asked for further advice in regard to the matter, which will be communicated to the honorable member as soon as it is available. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<type>Questions</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>OLD-AGE PENSIONS</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
</subdebateinfo>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<time.stamp />
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<name role="metadata">BAYLEY, James</name>
<name role="display">Mr BAYLEY</name>
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<para>asked the Treasurer, <inline font-style="italic">upon notice -</inline></para>
</talk.start>
<quote>
<para>Whether, in the event ofthe old-age pension being increased from 17s. 6d. to £1 per week, he will at the same time proportionately increase the amount paid to old-age pensioners who are inmates of charitable institutions? </para>
</quote>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>C7E</name.id>
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<party>CP</party>
<role />
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<name role="metadata">PAGE, Earle</name>
<name role="display">Dr EARLE PAGE</name>
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<para>- The whole question of removing anomalies is under consideration. </para>
</talk.start>
</speech>
</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>QUESTION</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<type>Questions</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>WIRELESS BROADCASTING</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
</subdebateinfo>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KEV</name.id>
<electorate>MARIBYRNONG, VICTORIA</electorate>
<party />
<role />
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">FENTON, James</name>
<name role="display">Mr FENTON</name>
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<para>asked the PostmasterGeneral, <inline font-style="italic">upon notice -</inline></para>
</talk.start>
<list type="decimal-dotted">
<item label="1.">
<para>Is it true that serious complaints are being made by holders of licences of wireless receiving sets that, since the reduction of the wave-length from 3 LO transmitting station, very poor services are being rendered? </para>
</item>
<item label="2.">
<para>Is there still a controversy between the Amalgamated Wireless Company and the Broadcasting Company in reference to unsatisfactory equipment, plant, &c. ? </para>
</item>
<item label="3.">
<para>Will he at once take steps to have a satisfactory service established, so that subscribers may receive a good service for which they have paid? </para>
</item>
</list>
</speech>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>KAY</name.id>
<electorate>CORANGAMITE, VICTORIA</electorate>
<party>CP</party>
<role>Postmaster-General</role>
<in.gov>0</in.gov>
<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">GIBSON, William</name>
<name role="display">Mr GIBSON</name>
</talker>
<para>- The answers to the honorable member's questions are: - </para>
</talk.start>
<list type="decimal-dotted">
<item label="1.">
<para>Some complaints have beenreceived, but it is not always an easy matter to determine whether the transmitter or the receiver is responsible for poor reception. </para>
</item>
<item label="2.">
<para>Not that I am aware of. </para>
</item>
<item label="3.">
<para>It is expected that the installation of certain plant, anticipated to be completed in about six weeks' time, will ensure improved service. </para>
</item>
</list>
</speech>
</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>COMMONWEALTH BANK</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<type>miscellaneous</type>
</debateinfo>
<subdebate.1>
<subdebateinfo>
<title>Loan to Insurance Company</title>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
</subdebateinfo>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1647</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>C7E</name.id>
<electorate />
<party>CP</party>
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<in.gov>0</in.gov>
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<name role="metadata">PAGE, Earle</name>
<name role="display">Dr EARLE PAGE</name>
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<para>- Yesterday, I was asked by the honorable member for Reid <inline font-weight="bold">(Mr. Coleman)</inline> - </para>
</talk.start>
<list type="decimal-dotted">
<item label="1.">
<para>Whether it is a fact that the Mutual Life and Citizens' Assurance Company Limited, of which <inline font-weight="bold">Mr. J.</inline> J. Garvan, Chairman of Directors of the Commonwealth Bank, is the managing director and chief shareholder obtained an overdraft from the Commonwealth Bank of Australia of approximately £2,000,000 at the low rate of 5 per cent., at a time when ordinary bank customers werebeing charged 7 per cent.? </para>
</item>
<item label="2.">
<para>If so, why has this apparently favoured treatment been allowed in this instance? </para>
</item>
</list>
<para class="block">As soon as the question appeared on the notice-paper, I telegraphed to the Chairman of Directors of the Commonwealth Bank, asking that information be furnished. As a consequence, I received the following reply from <inline font-weight="bold">Mr. Love,</inline> secretary to the Board of Directors: - </para>
<quote>
<para>Replying to your telegram of to-day, under section 15a of the Commonwealth Bank Act, members of the Board are prohibited from disclosing the business of the bank or its customers. <inline font-weight="bold">Mr. Garvan</inline> informs us he is furnishing you with a statement. For your information, advances were made by all banks to enable subscriptions to be made to early war loans at one-half of 1 per cent. less than the rate the loan was floated at. For instance, all banks were advancing to the general public at 4 per cent. to enable subscriptions to be made to the 4½ per cent. loan, and these overdrafts were arranged for eighteen months, or, in special cases, longer. The general overdraft rate for the Commonwealth Bank was never more than6 per cent. during the period of the Mutual Life and Citizens' subscriptions to the loans. </para>
</quote>
<para class="block">Subsequently, I received the following telegram from <inline font-weight="bold">Mr. John</inline> J. Garvan, who is Chairman of Directors of the Commonwealth Bant, and managing director of the Mutual Life and Citizens' Assurance Company Limited: - </para>
<para class="block"> Referring to your telegram to the Bank on the subject of Coleman's question, as managing director of the Mutual Life and Citizens, I desire to make the following statement : - In 1915, nine years prior to my becoming a Director of the Bank, the Mutual Life and Citizens made an arrangement with the Commonwealth Bank to overdraw its account to enable it to subscribe to war loans. This arrangement was common to all banks, and all loan subscribers, except that in the case of the Mutual Life and Citizens the amount subscribed has been £12,000,000 sterling, and that it has involved the appropriation of all the company's accumulations for a period of nearly ten years, during which the company was perforce compelled to abstain from carrying on its ordinary business of leading money. When I joined the board last year, the overdraft was £350,000. This amount has since been paid off, and the Bank is indebted to the company in the sum of £50,000. On the 1 1th inst., the Bank was informed that no further accommodation would be required, and that the account would be closed. </para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1>
</debate>
<debate>
<debateinfo>
<title>CUSTOMS BILL</title>
<page.no>1648</page.no>
<type>bill</type>
</debateinfo>
<para>SecondReading. </para>
<speech>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1648</page.no>
<time.stamp />
<name.id>K1J</name.id>
<electorate>Martin</electorate>
<party>NAT</party>
<role>Minister for Trade and Customs</role>
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<first.speech>0</first.speech>
<name role="metadata">PRATTEN, Herbert</name>
<name role="display">Mr PRATTEN</name>
</talker>
<para>. - I move - </para>
</talk.start>
<quote>
<para>That the bill be now read a second time. </para>
</quote>
<para class="block">This measure contains definitions of the terms of our preference, and asks Parliament to prescribe for preferential tariff purposes the conditions of manufacture which will constitute goods the produce or manufacture of a country. Section 8 of the Customs Tariff Act reads - </para>
<quote>
<para>The rates of duty set out in the schedule in the column headed "British preferential tariff " shall applyto goods the produce or manufacture of the United Kingdom, subject to the condition that the goods havebeen shipped in the United Kingdom to Australia, and have not been transhipped, or, if transhipped, then only if it is proved to the satisfaction of the Collector that the intended destination of the goods, when originally shipped from the United Kingdom, was Australia. </para>
</quote>
<para class="block">It will be observed that the main condition of this section, which governs the concessions given to the United Kingdom in our tariff, is that the goods must be the produce or manufacture of the United Kingdom. A similar provision has been included in our tariff legislation since 1907,when British preference was first instituted. As the term "goods the produce or manufacture of the United Kingdom " is capable of different interpretations, it is necessary to have a specific definition in order that the mercantile community may understand exactly the conditions of preference. At the inception of the policy of preference this definition was made by a decision of the Minister of the day, who ruled that goods containing 25 per cent. of labour and materials of United Kingdom origin were entitled to preference. These conditions were embodied in later administrations. Honorable members may ask why this bill is being introduced. I remind them that in the earlier stages of this policy the concession was comparatively small, but Parliament, being sympathetic with British trade, increased the preference in later tariffs. The tariff of 1921 gave more substantial advantages to goods from the Motherland. To-day, this preference to British goods represents about £8,000,000 a year. In 1907, when the preference was small, the proportion of British labour and material in goods did not matter so much; but to-day the concession, as I have shown, represents a substantial advantage. It is common knowledge that in recent years the British manufacturing industry has been faced with the keenest opposition from continental countries, with the result that there is a steady increase in the importation of foreign manufactures into the United Kingdom. Honorable members will recollect that there has been a considerable amount of dissatisfaction in recent years at the increasing continental incidence of British preference terms. Nodoubt, they will also recall my statement in the House last September, that the Government had decided to make some re-arangement in the terms of British preference. This bill is the outcome. Its purpose is to give power to lay down the conditions of preference. When the (preference was small, and when the conditions in England were not as they are to-day, the legality of ministerial interpretation was not questioned, but now that the conditionsare more stringent, some doubt as cast upon the legal position. This objection actually affects everything that has been done since 1907. It concerns the 25 per cent. justas muchas it affects the 7.5 percent. policy. </para>
<interjection>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1649</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">SCULLIN, James Henry</name>
<name role="display">Mr Scullin</name>
</talker>
<para>- Then this bill is a validating measure. </para>
</talk.start>
</interjection>
<continue>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1649</page.no>
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<para>- Its purpose is to validate the action of the Government, and to give power to prescribe the conditions that shallbelaid down for the importation of goods under tine terms of preference . </para>
</talk.start>
</continue>
<interjection>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1649</page.no>
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<name role="metadata">BRUCE, Stanley</name>
<name role="display">Mr Bruce</name>
</talker>
<para>- It will cover the act of every Government since 1907. </para>
</talk.start>
</interjection>
<continue>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1649</page.no>
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<para>- Ithank the right honorable the Prime Ministerfor the interjection. The bill will practically validate allthat has been done under the preferential tariff since 1907. The Crown law authorities are in some doubt. It is believed that, if Parliament is not consulted, and if this validating measure is not passed, the matter will be one for the High Court to decide.It is, Ithink, a matter for Parliament. </para>
</talk.start>
</continue>
<interjection>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1649</page.no>
<time.stamp />
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<name role="metadata">WEST, John Edward</name>
<name role="display">Mr West</name>
</talker>
<para>- And it is about time that Parliament was consulted. </para>
</talk.start>
</interjection>
<continue>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1649</page.no>
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<para>- I agree with the honorable member. It is time that the matter was brought up. There is no need For moto dwell on the necessity for a definition. The Government submits a well-considered definition of the terms of British preference - terms that are heartily acclaimed by all good British manufacturers, and will not hurt them in any way if they desire to be bona fide. An almost ludicrous state of affairs has arisen. Textile goods manufactured entirely on the Continent of Europe have been sent to England, and there dyed, measured, and wrapped, and have 'then come to this country under the terms of British preference. Machines in parts have been made on the Continent, and assembled and packed in England, and have come here under the terms of British preference. I am sorry to say thatthere is in England a type of AngloContinental manufacturer, and he should be prevented from doing this sort of thing. The irontrade imports into Great Britain from the Continent have increased recently to an enormous extent. </para>
</talk.start>
</continue>
<interjection>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1649</page.no>
<time.stamp />
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<name role="metadata">FENTON, James</name>
<name role="display">Mr Fenton</name>
</talker>
<para>- No wonder there is unemployment in Great Britain. </para>
</talk.start>
</interjection>
<continue>
<talk.start>
<talker>
<page.no>1649</page.no>
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