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[Thursday 9:24 AM] Jason Helmick

Hello and welcome to the August 2023 PowerShell Community Call -  where everyone is welcome!  We will get started shortly.

 

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[Thursday 9:26 AM] Sydney Smith (SHE/HER)

Welcome everyone  

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[Thursday 9:27 AM] Sydney Smith (SHE/HER)

The agenda and discussion https://github.com/orgs/PowerShell/discussions/20004

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August 17th 2023 PowerShell Community Call · PowerShell · Discussion #20004

Agenda to come Bug Bash recap @SydneyhSmith (Thank you community for joining!) PSResourceGet Release @SydneyhSmith Crescendo RC release @theJasonHelmick DSC v3 @mgreenegit Docs Update @sdwheeler VS...

[Thursday 9:29 AM] Jason Helmick

Mr Kanakos in da house!

[Thursday 9:30 AM] Victor (External) (Guest)

Hello everyone. I'm Victor from Nigeria

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[Thursday 9:30 AM] Grote, Justin

Victor (Guest) welcome!

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[Thursday 9:35 AM] Sydney Smith (SHE/HER)

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/powershell/psresourceget-preview-24-is-now-available/

PSResourceGet Preview 24 is Now Available - PowerShell Team

Microsoft.PowerShell.PSResourceGet is a continuation of the PowerShellGet 3.0 project. The latest preview release of this module under the new name is now available on the PowerShell Gallery. This ...

[Thursday 9:35 AM] Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)

the new alias's are awesome. check them out!

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[Thursday 9:35 AM] Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)

THANK YOU community for helping us identify issues

[Thursday 9:37 AM] James Brundage

Sydney Smith (SHE/HER) cool work! Lemme know if you'd like a GitHub Action for PSResourceGet.

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[Thursday 9:38 AM] Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)

no more changes, until the next release after GA 

[Thursday 9:39 AM] Mikey Lombardi

tbc, Sean has been the person on the docs side carrying all the water for the PSResourceGet docs updates 😊 - my involvement has mostly been cheering him on and hitting the merge button 😅

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[Thursday 9:40 AM] Jason Helmick

Crescendo RC Blog: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/powershell/announcing-powershell-crescendo-1-1-0-rc1/

Crescendo GitHub: https://github.com/PowerShell/Crescendo

Crescendo Docs: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/utility-modules/crescendo/overview?view=ps-modules

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Announcing PowerShell Crescendo 1.1.0-RC1 - PowerShell Team

This RC contains several community requested features and fixes including improved support for PSScriptAnalyzer, improvements to error handling, and the addition of `ExcludeAsArgument` property.

[Thursday 9:42 AM] Demitrius Nelon

WinGet 💖 PowerShell DSC

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[Thursday 9:42 AM] Steven Bucher

PowerShell/DSC (github.com)

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GitHub - PowerShell/DSC

Contribute to PowerShell/DSC development by creating an account on GitHub.

[Thursday 9:43 AM] Mikey Lombardi

DSCv3 repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/DSC

DSCv3 docs: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/dsc/overview?view=dsc-3.0

DSCv3 CLI docs: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/dsc/reference/cli/dsc?view=dsc-3.0

DSCv3 Samples site: https://powershell.github.io/DSC-Samples/

DSCv3 Samples repo: https://github.com/PowerShell/DSC-Samples

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PowerShell/DSC

[Thursday 9:45 AM] Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)

Mikey has done a GREAT job with a tutorials site ^

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[Thursday 9:45 AM] Victor (External) (Guest)

Wow

[Thursday 9:46 AM] Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)

For the first time ever, the tutorials are based on managing a fictional app, not just "set a registry key", etc

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[Thursday 9:46 AM] Sean Wheeler

Documentation update

What's New in PowerShell-Docs for 2023 
New PSResourceGet cmdlet - Import-PSGetRepository (Microsoft.PowerShell.PSResourceGet) 
55 New DSCv3 docs! - Microsoft Desired State Configuration v3 overview 
New DSCv3 code samples for creating resources - DSC Samples (powershell.github.io)

List of changes to the PowerShell documentation for 2023

[Thursday 9:47 AM] James Brundage

Will DSC vNext support getting out the data only from gets (this helps make monitoring a lot easier, and yet it's something DSC hasn't exactly done in the past)?

[Thursday 9:47 AM] Ryan Yates (Guest)

Is the daily build still being released?

[Thursday 9:49 AM] Mikey Lombardi

Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)

For the first time ever, the tutorials are based on managing a fictional app, not just "set a registry key", etc


I spent years being frustrated by "how to write a resource" docs in CM tools always being too trivial (here's how you set a string in a fake file) or a real resource (here's how you write a resource to manage environment variables) - the former doesn't really help you understand what you're doing in detail, the latter leads to 100+ resources managing the same real-world component.


 

So the samples in that repo manage a fictional application's configuration file - a very common requirement, but one that won't collide with real-world usage.

 

There's also a contributor's guide with some specs - if you're comfortable programming in any language, I'd really like to get alternative implementations into the samples repo. You can contribute just the code, or code and tutorial - I'm happy to work with you on whatever! 💜

 

https://powershell.github.io/DSC-Samples/contributing/tutorials/

 

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Contributing a tutorial

Sample implementations for Desired State Configuration v3.

[Thursday 9:50 AM] Mikey Lombardi

James Brundage (External)

Will DSC vNext support getting out the data only from gets (this helps make monitoring a lot easier, and yet it's something DSC hasn't exactly done in the past)?


Do you mean just getting current state for a configuration document?


[Thursday 9:52 AM] Mikey Lombardi

DSCv3 supports retrieving the current state of every instance in a configuration document. You can use the dsc config get command for that:

 

https://learn.microsoft.com/powershell/dsc/reference/cli/config/get?view=dsc-3.0&preserveView=true

dsc config get - PowerShell

Command line reference for the 'dsc config get' command

[Thursday 9:52 AM] Andy Jordan (THEY/THEM)

Link to pre-release: https://github.com/PowerShell/vscode-powershell/releases/tag/v2023.9.0-preview

Release v2023.9.0-preview · PowerShell/vscode-powershell

v2023.9.0-preview
Wednesday, August 09, 2023
vscode-powershell

🐛 🔧 vscode-powershell #4557 - Support ~, ./ and named workspace folders in cwd.
✨ 🔧 vscode-powershell #4686 - Enhance additionalPo...

[Thursday 9:53 AM] Michael Kanakos

Sean Wheeler 

do Get-WhatsNew updates release with PS updates ? 

Can I update Get-WhatsNew immediately after a new release of PS? 

[Thursday 9:54 AM] Mikey Lombardi

Also, if anyone wants to chat about DSCv3, you can always find me online in the community chat spaces - Not only am I stoked about the new version, but I really want to make sure that when it does get closer to GA the docs are there to launch you to success. 😊

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[Thursday 9:55 AM] Andrey Vernigora

why is PowerShell Az module behind the az cli in terms of functionality? Damien Caro

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[Thursday 9:55 AM] Darren Kattan

Mikey Lombardi is there a DSC Discord channel?

[Thursday 9:55 AM] Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)

Darren Kattan

Mikey Lombardi is there a DSC Discord channel?


Yes!


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[Thursday 9:55 AM] Darren Kattan

I found it

[Thursday 9:56 AM] Joel Miller

Mikey Lombardi, What options are there for community chat spaces for DSCV3?

[Thursday 9:56 AM] Joel Miller

I may have missed that

[Thursday 9:56 AM] Grote, Justin

Unknown User

why is PowerShell Az module behind the az cli in terms of functionality?


Example? They're two entirely different dev teams so they probably have different priorities


[Thursday 9:56 AM] Mikey Lombardi

Darren Kattan

Mikey Lombardi is there a DSC Discord channel?


Yup! It's under the "Tech Specific" folder in the discord


[Thursday 9:56 AM] Darren Kattan

wait what I'm in Baton rouge!

[Thursday 9:56 AM] Darren Kattan

stfu I had no idea

[Thursday 9:57 AM] Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)

There is also a dsc community call, fyi. Details at dsccommunity.org

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[Thursday 9:57 AM] Damien Caro

Andrey Vernigora (External)

why is PowerShell Az module behind the az cli in terms of functionality?


New services have support from both clients within 30 days of GA and we are working on closing any previous gaps that may exist.


[Thursday 9:57 AM] Sean Wheeler

mikefrobbins.github.io/psdocs-how-to/index.html

How to create documentation for a PowerShell module, create updateable help, publish the help to a website, and publish the module to the PowerShell Gallery.

[Thursday 9:58 AM] James Brundage

Is PlatyPS still being updated?

[Thursday 9:58 AM] Grote, Justin

az cli also has a lot of bespoke stuff (like creating a service principal) that is actually an amalgamation of several different commands, I'm not sure how much parity is required for Az PowerShell to match

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[Thursday 9:58 AM] Darren Kattan

Mikey Lombardi What are your thoughts on this: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/9870#issuecomment-1674872937

Feature Request: Output stream for WhatIf messages #9870

[danielboth](https://github.com/danielboth) commented on this issue.

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Thursday 9:58 AM

Unknown User
8/17/2023, 9:56 AM
Mikey Lombardi, What options are there for community chat spaces for DSCV3?
The DSC Community keeps some good info on that here:




 

https://dsccommunity.org/help/

 

I'm personally keeping an eye on discord and in the repositories.

Begin Reference, Is PlatyPS still being upd... by Aditya Patwardhan
Aditya Patwardhan
Thursday 9:58 AM

James Brundage
8/17/2023, 9:58 AM
Is PlatyPS still being updated?
Yes, I plan to get back to it starting next week.

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Begin Reference, Is PlatyPS still being upd... by Sean Wheeler
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Thursday 9:59 AM

James Brundage
8/17/2023, 9:58 AM
Is PlatyPS still being updated?
Yes, slowly...

Begin Reference, Mikey Lombardi What are yo... by Mikey Lombardi
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Darren Kattan
8/17/2023, 9:58 AM
Mikey Lombardi What are your thoughts on this: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/9870#issuecomment-1674872937
We're on similar wavelengths, I think!




 

https://github.com/PowerShell/PSDesiredStateConfiguration/discussions/91

 

That functionality is also planned for the dsc command itself:

 

https://github.com/PowerShell/DSC/issues/70

Thank you Michael K. for all you do for the... by Ben Kahn
Ben Kahn
Thursday 10:00 AM

Thank you Michael K. for all you do for the PowerShell community! 

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Begin Reference, We're on similar wavelengt... by Darren Kattan
Darren Kattan
Thursday 10:01 AM

Mikey Lombardi
8/17/2023, 10:00 AM
We're on similar wavelengths, I think! https://github.com/PowerShell/PSDesiredStateConfiguration/discussions/91 That functionality is also planned for the dsc command itself: https://github.com/PowerShell/DSC/issues/70
Yaaas

I'm interested in attending and maybe helpi... by Ben Kahn
Ben Kahn
Thursday 10:02 AM

I'm interested in attending and maybe helping James Brundage. Where can I find more info? 

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Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)
Thursday 10:02 AM

I am very interested in this as well. I am ... by Lionetti, Chris
Lionetti, Chris
Thursday 10:02 AM

I am very interested in this as well. I am in the Seattle area; chris.lionetti@hpe.com I am in fact volunteering to help

PS team would love to participate in meet-u... by Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)
Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)
Thursday 10:02 AM

PS team would love to participate in meet-ups

Aditya   Patwardhan  cool!  Long time / no ... by James Brundage
James Brundage
Thursday 10:02 AM

Aditya Patwardhan cool!  Long time / no talk.  We should sync up about overlap between PlatyPS and HelpOut.

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Dongbo   Wang  can you check about the dail... by Ryan Yates (Guest)
Ryan Yates (Guest)
Thursday 10:02 AM

Dongbo Wang can you check about the daily build as my Job to install a new one seems to be failing

Research Triangle PowerShell Usergroup is p... by Michael Kanakos
Michael Kanakos
Thursday 10:02 AM
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Research Triangle PowerShell Usergroup is planning to do a PowerShell Saturday in early 2024! 

Raleigh, NC 

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and anyone who is willing to help can email... by James Brundage
James Brundage
Thursday 10:02 AM

and anyone who is willing to help can email me at james.brundage@start-automating.com or hit me up on the PowerShell Discord (@StartAutomating  on there)

Any PowerSheller folks heading to SpiceWorl... by Andrew Pla
Andrew Pla
Thursday 10:03 AM

Any PowerSheller folks heading to SpiceWorld next month?

Link mikek@powershell.org or Link mkanako... by Michael Kanakos
Michael Kanakos
Thursday 10:03 AM

mikek@powershell.org or mkanakos@gmail.com for anyone looking to reach out.

PowerShell and DevOps Global Summit Call fo... by Januszko, Missy
Januszko, Missy
Thursday 10:03 AM

PowerShell and DevOps Global Summit Call for Papers opens 10/1!

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Sean   Wheeler  and Mike   Robbins   (AZUR... by Mikey Lombardi
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Thursday 10:04 AM

Sean Wheeler and Mike Robbins (AZURE POWERSHELL) are, unless my brain is fried!

Begin Reference, Sean Wheeler and Mike Robb... by Andrew Pla
Andrew Pla
Thursday 10:04 AM

Mikey Lombardi
8/17/2023, 10:04 AM
Sean Wheeler and Mike Robbins (AZURE POWERSHELL) are, unless my brain is fried!
I think you are right. I think they are running a PowerShell course

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(going to SpiceWorld, I mean 😅) by Mikey Lombardi
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Thursday 10:04 AM

(going to SpiceWorld, I mean 😅)

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Begin Reference, Thank you Michael K. for a... by Michael Kanakos
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Thursday 10:05 AM

Ben Kahn
8/17/2023, 10:00 AM
Thank you Michael K. for all you do for the PowerShell community!
Happy to talk up events and activities as long as people don't tired of hearing my voice 

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Thursday 10:06 AM

Michael Kanakos
8/17/2023, 10:05 AM
Happy to talk up events and activities as long as people don't tired of hearing my voice 🙂
of those dulcet tones? not a chance 😤

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Ben   Kahn  please drop me an email by James Brundage
James Brundage
Thursday 10:06 AM

Ben Kahn please drop me an email

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yooooooo tree view is rad by Mikey Lombardi
Mikey Lombardi
Thursday 10:07 AM

yooooooo tree view is rad

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Begin Reference, Dongbo Wang can you check ... by Dongbo Wang
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Thursday 10:08 AM

Ryan Yates (Guest)
8/17/2023, 10:02 AM
Dongbo Wang can you check about the daily build as my Job to install a new one seems to be failing
Daily build of the PowerShell repo? nightly builds seem to pass today

I can't tell you how many times I'm iterati... by Mikey Lombardi
Mikey Lombardi
Thursday 10:08 AM

I can't tell you how many times I'm iteratively accessing child members to find what's in there 😅

Think its been a my machine issue Dongbo  ... by Ryan Yates (Guest)
Ryan Yates (Guest)
Thursday 10:09 AM

Think its been a my machine issue Dongbo Wang sorry fort the call out

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Thursday 10:10 AM
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Grote, Justin
8/17/2023, 9:56 AM
Example? They're two entirely different dev teams so they probably have different priorities

Azure App Config service import functionality. First - Set-..KeyValue does not work at all, and there is no way to import yaml files. az cli does it no issues. Damien Caro

...amd just found out I had the wrong mic e... by Michael Kanakos
Michael Kanakos
Thursday 10:11 AM

...amd just found out I had the wrong mic enabled... sorry if I had some crappy audio earlier... 

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Begin Reference, az cli also has a lot of b... by Andrey Vernigora
Andrey Vernigora
Thursday 10:13 AM
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Grote, Justin
8/17/2023, 9:58 AM
az cli also has a lot of bespoke stuff (like creating a service principal) that is actually an amalgamation of several different commands, I'm not sure how much parity is required for Az PowerShell to match

i'd say - 100% parity  as jumping between the two is painful. so people pick the simplest path and use the tool that can do all needed stuff, instead of  mixing the tools

James demo'ed this two weeks at my group. v... by Michael Kanakos
Michael Kanakos
Thursday 10:13 AM

James demo'ed this two weeks at my group. very interesting demo . watch the demo on YT

https://youtu.be/iZgcTD_uN-w

Improving the Shell Experienc…

01:38:29 | 376 views | 5 days ago

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any chance we can rerun the pipelines for t... by Ryan Yates (Guest)
Ryan Yates (Guest)
Thursday 10:15 AM

any chance we can rerun the pipelines for this pr https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/19884

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Thursday 10:16 AM

Ryan Yates (Guest)
8/17/2023, 10:15 AM
any chance we can rerun the pipelines for this pr https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/19884
I will close and re-open to re-run the pipelunnes

...and in true james brundage fashion... he... by Michael Kanakos
Michael Kanakos
Thursday 10:16 AM
Edited

...and in true james brundage fashion... he added a bunch of new stuff he since demo'ed two weeks ago

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Begin Reference, I will close and re-open t... by Dongbo Wang
Dongbo Wang
Thursday 10:16 AM

Aditya Patwardhan
8/17/2023, 10:16 AM
I will close and re-open to re-run the pipelunnes
Already rerunning

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Pretty slick! by Darren Kattan
Darren Kattan
Thursday 10:18 AM

Pretty slick!

Love to hear it! by Andrew Pla
Andrew Pla
Thursday 10:19 AM

Love to hear it!

Can we get a compression module called mid... by Darren Kattan
Darren Kattan
Thursday 10:19 AM

Can we get a compression module called middle out?

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(Previously known as JSON adapters Wink ) ... by Steven Bucher
Thursday 10:20 AM
Steven Bucher

(Previously known as JSON adapters ) announcements/changes coming soon 

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Begin Reference, Azure App Config service i... by Damien Caro
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Thursday 10:21 AM

Andrey Vernigora
8/17/2023, 10:10 AM
Azure App Config service import functionality. First - Set-..KeyValue does not work at all, and there is no way to import yaml files. az cli does it no issues. Damien Caro
The most efficient was to get this addressed is to submit an issue in the Azure PowerShell repo to get the attention of the owner of the module: https://github.com/Azure/azure-powershell/issues

Issues · Azure/azure-powershell

Microsoft Azure PowerShell. Contribute to Azure/azure-powershell development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Begin Reference, i'd say - 100% parity 🙂 a... by Damien Caro
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Thursday 10:23 AM
Andrey Vernigora
8/17/2023, 10:13 AM
i'd say - 100% parity 🙂 as jumping between the two is painful. so people pick the simplest path and use the tool that can do all needed stuff, instead of mixing the tools

We are prioritizing where we fill the gaps, over the last several months we put our effort on increasing AKS support

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Link https://github.com/StartAutomating/ugi by Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)
Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)
Thursday 10:23 AM

https://github.com/StartAutomating/ugit

GitHub - StartAutomating/ugit: Updated Git: A powerful PowerShell wrapper for git that lets you extend git, automate multiple repos, and output git as objects.

Updated Git: A powerful PowerShell wrapper for git that lets you extend git, automate multiple repos, and output git as objects. - GitHub - StartAutomating/ugit: Updated Git: A powerful PowerShell ...

github.com
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Dongbo   Wang  looks like all test passed s... by Ryan Yates (Guest)
Ryan Yates (Guest)
Thursday 10:25 AM

Dongbo Wang looks like all test passed so can  we get tha PR merged

real-time dynamic parameter binding! by Darren Kattan
Darren Kattan
Thursday 10:25 AM

real-time dynamic parameter binding!

also - here are the instructions I followed... by Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)
Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)
Thursday 10:25 AM

also - here are the instructions I followed to get a local CloudShell container:

https://github.com/Azure/CloudShell#running-the-cloud-shell-image-locally

Link Bind Dynamic Parameters Real-Time by d... by Darren Kattan
Darren Kattan
Thursday 10:26 AM

Bind Dynamic Parameters Real-Time by dkattan · Pull Request #20069 · PowerShell/PowerShell (github.com)

To add to the Azure Automation, discovered ... by Matthew Dowst
Matthew Dowst
Thursday 10:26 AM

To add to the Azure Automation, discovered this week they are removing support for smart-quotes in PowerShell 5.1 modules. So heads up to anyone using custom modules.

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Thursday 10:28 AM

PowerShell
Function Expand-ComputerName {

    [CmdletBinding()]

    Param()

    DynamicParam {

        Write-Host "Calling New-DynamicParameter for ComputerName"

        New-DynamicParameter -Name ComputerName -Mandatory -Type string

        Write-Host "`$ComputerName: $ComputerName"

        if ($ComputerName -like '*`$AssetTag*') {

            Write-Host "Calling New-DynamicParameter for AssetTag"

            New-DynamicParameter -Name AssetTag -Mandatory -Type string

            Write-Host "Done calling New-DynamicParameter for AssetTag"

        }

    }

    Process {

        $ExecutionContext.InvokeCommand.ExpandString($ComputerName)

    }

}
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Yall are awesome Smile by Ryan Yates (Guest)
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Thursday 10:29 AM

Yall are awesome 

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Victor (External) (Guest)
Thursday 10:29 AM

Thank you!

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Thursday 10:29 AM

Thanks!

thank you! by Michael Greene (POWERSHELL)
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Thursday 10:29 AM

thank you!

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Thursday 10:29 AM

Thanks!

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Thanks folks!

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Thursday 10:29 AM

Thanks everyone!

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