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@magicmark magicmark commented Nov 18, 2020

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I've pulled out the proposed spec edits for Schema Coordinates (issue: #735) into this PR.

(The RFC now lives in the original PR: https://github.com/graphql/graphql-spec/pull/746/files)

@leebyron you mentioned it might be possible to simplify the grammar - I played around a bit since the original PR, but I think I need some help here. What did you have in mind?

As suggested, tagging @eapache @mjmahone as additional reviewers as we had some good conversation in last WG meeting about this.

Thanks!


GraphQL.js PR: graphql/graphql-js#3044

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magicmark commented Nov 18, 2020

Oh also, here's another option I had for the examples table, was thinking it might be good to explicitly show all the different kinds of schema you can select:

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felt slightly too verbose to me, but curious to see if anyone prefers this

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Thanks for your hard work on this!

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Looks good to me; a few optional tweaks suggested.

Comment on lines 379 to 399
Schema Coordinates are always unique. Each type, field, argument, enum value, or
directive may be referenced by exactly one possible Schema Coordinate.
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feels like something worth highlighting and being clear about as a guarantee in the spec

Comment on lines 382 to 391
For example, the following is *not* a valid Schema Coordinate:

```graphql counter-example
Entity.Business
```

In this counter example, both `Entity.Business` and `Business` would refer to
the `Business` type. Since it would be ambiguous what the "primary key" should
be in an application that uses Schema Coordinates to reference types, this is
not allowed.
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is this waffle? thought it might be helpful to have a little explanation/demonstration of this property

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Could just be

- Since it would be ambiguous what the "primary key" should be in an application that uses Schema Coordinates to reference types, this is not allowed.
+ Such ambiguity is disallowed (and hence why this is is invalid syntax).

(More terse, but doesn't walk the reader through why this is bad)

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In this counter example, Entity.Business is redundant since Business already uniquely identifies the Business type. Such redundancy is disallowed by this spec - every type, field, field argument, enum value, directive, and directive argument has exactly one canonical Schema Coordinate.

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👍 thanks benjie, stealing this wording

magicmark added a commit to magicmark/graphql-wg that referenced this pull request Jan 4, 2021
Happy new year! 🥳

It's possible we still want more time for the RFC to marinate, but I'll attend so I can be available to folks to discuss the schema coordinates rfc/spec edit in person.

graphql/graphql-spec#794

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At Indeed we log usage of schema elements to 1) support deprecation and 2) understand usage from a product management perspective (i.e. is this API we built adding value?).

We defined our own coordinate system that is not quite as complete as this spec. A nice benefit of formalizing a coordinate system is that shared tools can be built to solve these and other use cases.

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@leebyron leebyron added 📄 Draft (RFC 2) RFC Stage 2 (See CONTRIBUTING.md) and removed 💡 Proposal (RFC 1) RFC Stage 1 (See CONTRIBUTING.md) labels Mar 4, 2021
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I made some fairly significant edits to the prose and examples section in an attempt to simplify. @magicmark please take a look and let me know what you think.

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IIRC the only thing holding this from Approval stage is a landed GraphQL.js PR?

yaacovCR pushed a commit to graphql/graphql-js that referenced this pull request Jun 9, 2025
This PR is applied to the `schema-coordinates` branch PR here: #3044

Implements schema coordinate spec changes per the June 5th 2025 WG discussion

graphql/graphql-spec#794

- Add support for meta-fields (e.g. `__typename`)
- Add support for introspection types
- Revert back from FieldCoordinate+ValueCoordinate -> MemberCoordinate

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Really excited that we're getting close to this being ready to launch!

We still need to reach a consensus on the "meta fields" and "introspection types" question. I think the real issue comes down to "resolution" and I think it's implementation-defined whether or not you can "resolve" a meta field or a member of the introspection schema (since these may be implemented in completely different ways to regular fields/types/etc) - and thus we should exclude them from schema element explicitly, and let the rest of the logic flow from there. This doesn't make them "invalid" so much as "implementation defined behavior".

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magicmark commented Jul 3, 2025

Applied - makes sense and looks a bit cleaner. Thanks @benjie!

The spec as written does now make it clear that these are implementation-defined, so that's the current proposal which hopefully aligns with the majority opinion.

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benjie commented Jul 4, 2025

@magicmark Here's my original diff that I drafted up locally:

diff --git a/spec/Section 2 -- Language.md b/spec/Section 2 -- Language.md
index e422d9a..7a6dc1f 100644
--- a/spec/Section 2 -- Language.md	
+++ b/spec/Section 2 -- Language.md	
@@ -113,6 +113,8 @@ Comments are {Ignored} like white space and may appear after any token, or
 before a {LineTerminator}, and have no significance to the semantic meaning of a
 GraphQL Document.
 
+Comments are forbidden within a _schema coordinate_.
+
 ### Insignificant Commas
 
 Comma :: ,
@@ -154,25 +156,27 @@ Ignored ::
 - Comma
 
 {Ignored} tokens are used to improve readability and provide separation between
-lexical tokens, but are otherwise insignificant and not referenced in
-syntactical grammar productions.
+lexical tokens in a GraphQL document, but are otherwise insignificant and not
+referenced in syntactical grammar productions. {Ignored} are forbidden within a
+_schema coordinate_.
 
-Any amount of {Ignored} may appear before and after every lexical token. No
-ignored regions of a source document are significant, however {SourceCharacter}
-which appear in {Ignored} may also appear within a lexical {Token} in a
-significant way, for example a {StringValue} may contain white space characters.
-No {Ignored} may appear _within_ a {Token}, for example no white space
-characters are permitted between the characters defining a {FloatValue}.
+Any amount of {Ignored} may appear before and after every lexical token in a
+GraphQL document. No ignored regions of a source document are significant,
+however {SourceCharacter} which appear in {Ignored} may also appear within a
+lexical {Token} in a significant way, for example a {StringValue} may contain
+white space characters. No {Ignored} may appear _within_ a {Token}, for example
+no white space characters are permitted between the characters defining a
+{FloatValue}.
 
 **Byte Order Mark**
 
 UnicodeBOM :: "Byte Order Mark (U+FEFF)"
 
-The _Byte Order Mark_ is a special Unicode code point which may appear at the
+:: The _Byte Order Mark_ is a special Unicode code point which may appear at the
 beginning of a file which programs may use to determine the fact that the text
 stream is Unicode, and what specific encoding has been used. As files are often
 concatenated, a _Byte Order Mark_ may appear before or after any lexical token
-and is {Ignored}.
+and is {Ignored}. {UnicodeBOM} is forbidden within a _schema coordinate_.
 
 ### Punctuators

Ultimately I decided that section 2 of the spec is about the GraphQL language (for GraphQL documents) which does not specifically relate to schema coordinates, and so instead of talking about schema coordinates in section 2 before they are introduced, I would instead have schema coordinates reference section 2 and apply the exception on top. I'm not sure if this is the right decision - @leebyron would be able to better weigh in here - but if we are to comment in section 2 then here are the kind of changes that I would have made (i.e. adding "in a GraphQL document" to differentiate such from a "schema coordinate").

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magicmark commented Jul 4, 2025

ack @benjie

section 2 of the spec is about the GraphQL language (for GraphQL documents) which does not specifically relate to schema coordinates

makes sense, I was wondering about this too. seems overkill I agree, but something may be in order.

Anyway I've removed it from this PR for now, and made a separate follow-up PR that can be merged on top of this, should we decide this clarification (or similar) is appropriate. magicmark#2

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