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HTML Project Demos Describe Themselves as Such #51152

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@jeremylt

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.

Some learners seem to think that they need to replicate the demo projects for the Responsive Web Design certification exactly.

Describe the solution you'd like

Perhaps we should add some text to the demo projects like

DEMO - YOU SHOULD NOT EXACTLY REPLICATE THIS DEMO PROJECT

or

DEMO - YOU SHOULD MAKE A SIMILAR PROJECT WITH DIFFERENT CONTENT

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raisedadead

raisedadead commented on Aug 4, 2023

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I prefer the simpler language:

DEMO - YOU SHOULD MAKE A SIMILAR PROJECT WITH DIFFERENT CONTENT

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jeremylt

jeremylt commented on Aug 5, 2023

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Sounds good to me. I think wordsmithing to something simple that communicates the intent is ideal, especially with how multilingual our audience is.

jdwilkin4

jdwilkin4 commented on Aug 5, 2023

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yeah, I agree with the change.
Hopefully that will clear up the misunderstanding on having to replicate the projects

Priyakaperla

Priyakaperla commented on Aug 5, 2023

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I think
DEMO : YOU SHOULD MAKE A SIMILAR PROJECT WITH DIFFERENT CONTENT

Sboonny

Sboonny commented on Aug 5, 2023

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Can we not have all caps, we can make it bold or italic if we needed the campers to pay extra attention.

Priyakaperla

Priyakaperla commented on Aug 5, 2023

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a2937

a2937 commented on Aug 6, 2023

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I thought I saw something similar to that warning on those projects.

There's already

Fulfill the user stories and pass all the tests below to complete this project. Give it your own personal style. Happy Coding!

I'm surprised campers are getting confused by this. I mean it's nice to have extra warnings but what was the original malfunction?

jeremylt

jeremylt commented on Aug 6, 2023

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The 'original malfunction' is that people still regularly exactly clone the projects. That makes it harder to tell at a glance between copying and making their own projects.

a2937

a2937 commented on Aug 6, 2023

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Sorry Jeremy. I wanted to know why campers thought it was acceptable to completely clone the projects. I wanted to know if it was them not reading that instruction or if the wording was too ambiguous; and to try to offer my own two cents on a possible solution.

jeremylt

jeremylt commented on Aug 6, 2023

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Ah, I misinterpreted 'original malfunction' as 'problem' but I think perhaps you are meaning what I would call 'root cause'?

I think the message isn't clear and direct and obvious enough.

a2937

a2937 commented on Aug 6, 2023

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Yes

raisedadead

raisedadead commented on Aug 7, 2023

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Thanks, all. @jeremylt is correct here. The main thing is people don't read.

We should go with this exact notice. Its terse, clear, and specific:

DEMO - YOU SHOULD MAKE A SIMILAR PROJECT WITH DIFFERENT CONTENT
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jeremylt

jeremylt commented on Aug 7, 2023

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I mostly used all caps because I forget that bold is an option. I'm all for any emphasis technique.

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moT01

moT01 commented on Aug 8, 2023

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Just a curiosity @jeremylt (or anyone), are we sure campers are confused and not deliberately cloning the project? I presume you had a forum discussion with someone that was confused, so I should probably just take your word for it - but there may be some that deliberately clone the project because they don't want to come up with something else.

naomi-lgbt

naomi-lgbt commented on Aug 8, 2023

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I have seen a lot of campers who think that they need to duplicate the project, not create their own.

jeremylt

jeremylt commented on Aug 8, 2023

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Its not super infrequent (and usually with someone who appears to have english as a second language) that I run into a camper that's surprised when I tell them they can make the project about anything they want and it only has to match functional requirements.

alexshibu1

alexshibu1 commented on Aug 16, 2023

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I agree

IoanaaCretu

IoanaaCretu commented on Sep 28, 2023

@IoanaaCretu

I can confirm! When I followed the course I had the impression that we should try replicate the demo. I am surprised to find out😲

smashed

smashed commented on Sep 30, 2023

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My first thought is to always replicate the project. If I can make a suggestion, maybe something that combines both sentences.

Try not to replicate this demo project and create a similar project with your own content.

jeremylt

jeremylt commented on Sep 30, 2023

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I'm always an advocate for smaller, simpler sentences whenever possible.

namankoolwal

namankoolwal commented on Oct 16, 2023

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Its not super infrequent (and usually with someone who appears to have english as a second language) that I run into a camper that's surprised when I tell them they can make the project about anything they want and it only has to match functional requirements.

I was under the impression that we should try to replicate the demo, but I’m surprised to learn that we shouldn’t..
if I can make a suggestion then :-
No need to copy, Make a similar project, Get Creative!

jeremylt

jeremylt commented on Oct 16, 2023

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I think actually want to say 'do not copy' instead of 'sometimes copy'

jdwilkin4

jdwilkin4 commented on Apr 8, 2024

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I am going to go ahead and close this since it looks like a PR was merged a while back to resolve the issue.

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