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[Request] Brim Priority/Support on Brim #713

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sarf2k4 opened this issue Feb 8, 2018 · 10 comments
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[Request] Brim Priority/Support on Brim #713

sarf2k4 opened this issue Feb 8, 2018 · 10 comments
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@sarf2k4
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sarf2k4 commented Feb 8, 2018

I would like to request this feature where the support will be printed on top of brims.

Current issues:
The object need to have support and brim enabled at once while some area will peel off without brim support. Turning on overhang support will render brim not generated on that critical area that needs brim. Refer to the image below; the corner of the object part is are left out to give support's base priority over brim and during printing (with abs), it may peeled off by itself due to not enough adhesion.

Proposal:
Since the Support's base layer is also a single layer of plastic about 0.2mm, brim also the same about 0.2mm. The supports could just be printed on top of the brim layers.

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FidelCapo commented Feb 13, 2018

Try download actual Slic3r version first. If that don't help, please, send me exported config and your STL file.

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sarf2k4 commented Feb 13, 2018

Hi, I've downloaded the original slic3r but there were no exe file for windows (downloaded the zip from github). What I did was to copy the old slic3r executable for windows and copy on top of the latest zip file (I doubt the updated zip file would do anything).

The brim also behave the same thing where, it enclose the support base instead of overriding the support's base as brim. Though this might not be critical to those who're printing with PLA, but it is for ABS.

I attached a picture below generated using original slic3r 1.29 and between the support base and object's perimeter, there's a small gap about 0.4-1.0mm gap while the brim sticks with the support's base leaving the actual to be used object didn't get "brimmed" to let it stick to the bed.

P.S: I don't plan to use original slic3r for my everyday slicing program.
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Thank you for report this Isuue.

@yoyo42
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yoyo42 commented Dec 28, 2018

I have had the same issue with 1.41.2, the brim does not help the object to stay on the bed and supports don't do that either. The brim should be always around the object then under or around the supports.

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ghost commented Feb 20, 2020

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I have this same problem I agree with @yoyo42 The brim should always be around the object then around the supports.

Prusa Slicer 2.2.0-aphla4

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barn53 commented Mar 7, 2020

Have the same problem, so I was searching for a solution and found this request.
It's totally clear that the brim should have priority over the support pattern on the first layer. In succeeding layers, the supports should be based on the brim.

@adamdport
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It looks like this is duplicated by #1156. However, someone made a commit there a year and a half ago to resolve it. Is that something that can be merged?

@bfeaginjr
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bfeaginjr commented Dec 18, 2020

same issue, please fix this, as parts with curves on the Z plane have a hard time adhering if they occur from a thin part; If the brim could be directly underneath the supports, it would resolve this issue. Going to try Cura. Almost three years and still not resolved!?

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bubnikv commented Feb 22, 2021

Duplicate of #1156
Closing this one

@bubnikv bubnikv closed this as completed Feb 22, 2021
bubnikv added a commit that referenced this issue Feb 23, 2021
Fixes Brim destroyed by support aka. Enable supports on top of brim #1156
Fixes Brim Priority/Support on Brim #713
Fixes Phantom Support columns interfere with brim #3396
Fixes false generation of brim when supports are used #3395

This is a work in progress, as the brim generator currently produces
different brim areas from what the support generator expects.
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bubnikv commented Feb 23, 2021

Implemented with 055d232

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