Some features (un)available on wrong node types?

[originalfoo]

I've been working on this table for the wiki documentation, to show where tools/features are available, and found some really odd stuff, namely:

• Lane connectors - not applicable to asymmetric nodes
  • Note: Lane Arrows tool already seems to filter out asym nodes
• Priority Signs - not needed for transition nodes
  • Even if u-turn is allowed, it shouldn't change the fact that turning traffic must yield (or stop?).
• Junction Restrictions:
  • Node select - not applicable to asymmetric nodes Remove junction restrictions u-turn button on asymmetric nodes? #345
  • Enter Blocked Junction - transition nodes
  • U-Turn - should never be allowed on bend nodes Mod option: Exclude bends and small roads (u-turns) #365
  • Pedestrian Crossing - should be possible on asymmetric nodes? (safest place to cross that road)
  • Pedestrian Crossing - should disable if adjacent roads don't have ped lanes Disable pedestrian crossing if adjacent roads have no pedestrian lanes #1302
• Traffic lights:
  • Should they be allowed on any node (converting node to something else if necessary)?
  • Manual TL - not applicable on middle nodes Manual traffic lights should not be available on middle nodes #890 (unless we allow TL on all nodes as above)

What	Junction	Transition	Middle	Asymmetric	Bend	Segment
Lane Connector	✔️	✔️	✔️	#1231	✔️	❌
Lane Arrows	✔️	✔️	❌	❌	❌	❌
Priority Signs	✔️	#1231	❌	❌	❌	❌
J.R. (node select)	✔️	❌	❌	#345	❌	❌
Enter Blocked	✔️	#1231	❌	❌	❌	❌
Ped Crossing	✔️ #1302	✔️	❌	#1231	✔️	❌
U-Turn (JR)	✔️	✔️	❌	❌	#365	❌
Turn on Red	✔️	❌	❌	❌	❌	❌
Change Lanes	✔️	❌	❌	❌	❌	❌
Toggle TL	✔️	✔️	❌	❌	❌	❌
Manual TL	✔️	✔️	#890	❌	❌	❌
Timed TL	✔️	✔️	❌	❌	❌	❌
Speed Limit	❌	❌	❌	❌	❌	✔️
Veh Restrict	❌	❌	❌	❌	❌	✔️
Park Restrict	❌	❌	❌	❌	❌	✔️
Bulk Applicator	❌	❌	❌	❌	❌	✔️

[kianzarrin]

@aubergine10 by transition node I assume you mean a node with two segments (probably because I used to use this term too)? In game nodes can have transition flag which is used to signify an intersection which is a transition from urban to highway (technically it also applies to nodes with roads of multiple levels and not necessarily highway).

Junction Restrictions: Enter Blocked Junction - why is this available at transition nodes?

maybe we want leave some space for the poor pedestrians to cross!

Bend nodes should be treated like middle node without any junction restrictions.

[originalfoo]

by transition node I assume you mean a node with two segments

Yeah, but where they are different prefabs (eg. large road transitions to small road, or ground to elevated, etc). Like, why would I need priority signs or enter blocked junction features on such nodes?

Bend nodes should be treated like middle node without any junction restrictions.

bend nodes have always allowed cims to cross road, without the striped zebra crossing, in vanilla (I can't remember if middle nodes also allow cims to cross road in same way?)

EDIT: So bend nodes should allow junction restrictions, but limited to ped crossing toggle.

[originalfoo]

Tagging: #365 , #345 , #854 , #364 (comment) - I've not yet retested those issues/comments, some may have been resolved; just tagging here as they are all relating to the same sort of issue