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Thank you for doing the research and proposal with the specific suggestions on where to have it. That solves one of my issues with Mastodon, which is "which $%%&ing instance am I supposed to pick?" The other issues I have is needing to log on yet-another website, but that's OK. The biggest apprehension I had is I heard it (at least the web UI, I guess) doesn't have such a thing as scheduled postings (which Twitter's Tweetdeck has), and I don't know if it has such a thing as team permissions. Do you know if those exist in the main implementation? |
Not that I'm aware of. |
asked Mastodon : https://mamot.fr/@ploum/104072741918695113 |
For the record, a lot of GNOME developers are also on Mastodon. You should quickly feel at home ;-) |
For scheduling: https://fedilab.app/ |
I have now created https://fosstodon.org/@GettingThingsGNOME ; as it does not handle teams, I guess I will be the single point of failure for this... |
Why not "gtg" ?
I just learned that fosstodon is blocked by the bridge so floss.social might be a better choice now that it's easy to change (no followers to migrate).
… On 28 Apr 2020, at 22:15, Jeff ***@***.***> wrote:
I have now created ***@***.*** ; as it does not handle teams, I guess I will be the single point of failure for this...
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Dunno, thought it was better to be explicit and to avoid potential clashes/confusion with whoever else might use that sort of nickname
Oh f*** me, how do I do that then? I have no idea. For what it's worth, so far I'm finding the (decentralization) experience a bit painful, particularly compared to Twitter's Tweetdeck:
...all papercuts that make me feel terribly improductive/handicapped in it. I'd like to see these features as part of the default/official web interface offering, I'm not going to go chasing down a gazillion clients to install (I particularly don't want to use mobile apps) that may have XYZ feature or bugs and may or may not be maintained in a few years... I guess I'm just old :) |
On mer, 29 avr, 2020 at 09:24, Jeff ***@***.***> wrote:
> Why not "gtg" ?
>
Dunno, thought it was better to be explicit and to avoid potential
clashes/confusion with whoever else might use that sort of nickname
damn hard to type. I would go for the simpler.
> I just learned that fosstodon is blocked by the bridge so
> floss.social might be a better choice now that it's easy to change
> (no followers to migrate).
>
Oh f*** me, how do I do that then? I have no idea.
maybe we could just not care. There's another bridge.
For what it's worth, so far I'm finding the (decentralization)
experience a bit painful, /particularly/ compared to Twitter's
Tweetdeck:
Not being able to configure the columns / add more columns in the
"advanced" official web UI (like you would in Tweetdeck) No search
columns to be able to monitor various topics No visible toot
scheduling feature (I saw mastodon/mastodon#340
<mastodon/mastodon#340> where it is
supposedly implemented but couldn't find anything in the default UI
for this) No teams and no multi-account support
...all papercuts that make me feel terribly improductive/handicapped
in it. I'd like to see these features as part of the default/official
web interface offering, I'm not going to go chasing down a gazillion
clients to install (I particularly /don't/ want to use mobile apps)
that may have XYZ feature or bugs and may or may not be maintained in
a few years... I guess I'm just old :)
It's opensource, you cant contribute to it. Personally, I don't care
much about those interface. In fact, I even use the "simple" version of
Mastodon. You may contribute to an external Mastodon client ;-)
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So, regarding renaming the account username: I can't find a way to do that in the web UI/account settings... |
You can't, afaik. it should be a new one.
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… So, regarding renaming the account username: I can't find a way to do that
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If I understand correctly then, I have to create a whole new account as |
Yeah, that's the major-huge problem of Mastodon. I've even written
about it but never published because I felt it was not worth the
effort. The main problem is not so much technical than philosophical:
Mastodon is full of cuddlebear-nazi who want love, resepect for
everyone *and* kill nazis.
This leads to an absurd situation but, I believe, this is only a tiny
minority that migrated early to Mastodon because Twitter was full of
nazis. Over the years, the situation is becoming less absurd because
more and more people join who don't care about this shit.
…On jeu, 30 avr, 2020 at 06:45, Jeff ***@***.***> wrote:
If I understand correctly then, I have to create a whole new account
as ***@***.*** ***@***.***> (and not fosstodon) and
hope that instance doesn't get blocked/delisted/deprecated in the
future, and then set a redirect, and ideally also tell people to
migrate their subscription to the new account (because I'm not going
to keep the old one around, no sir)...? This feels like the 90's. I
have to admit I am rapidly losing patience for this kind of hoop
jumping particularly if it relies on me being the "single point of
failure" for that account. I don't like a piece of infrastructure
being tied to me. I am pondering whether it is truly worth it.
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Hmm, where did you read that fosstodon was blocked from the federation, vs floss.social? I can't seem to find something about this. But then I can't seem to find a sensible, understandable summary list of the best instances to be on without going insane, either. I'm going through the extra mile to be researching topics such as:
And it is not fun. I see four ways forward (a.k.a. pointing out the mammoth in the room):
I hold no grudge towards Mastodon or anything like that, it's just that it is putting me before a choice where the costs—in terms of life complexity—are making it an increasingly hard sell for me personally every time I stumble on "Oh it doesn't do that?" and "Oh so doing this is not the 'correct' way?"… |
I would say A. I'm not worried too much about using Fosstodon (official Debian account migrated away but some other projects still use it). I just find a bit sad to not have gtg (which is the de-facto name for the project, even the debian package has it) but, it's pure bicycle shedding so just forget about it and use https://moa.party for the bridge |
I guess I'll consider this fixed / "good-enough", since we never know if, due to https://discourse.gnome.org/t/official-proposal-how-we-define-gnome-software/3371/15, we might (or might not) be forced to change the whole project name someday anyway (which is a whole other bikeshed to paint, and I don't have spontaneous ideas of alternative names nor do we have time for this branding exercise when we're simply trying to revive the project first and foremost anyway) |
I've seen the shiny new Twitter account. I think GTG should also have a Mastodon account.
I've spotted two FLOSS specific instances :
https://floss.social/about (where GNOME masto account is) and https://fosstodon.org.
It can also be synced thanks to https://crossposter.masto.donte.com.br/
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