TbSync for Thunderbird 102

[gerd-git]

Your environment

Window 10
TbSync version:
3.0.2
Thunderbird version:
102

EDIT: Previews of updated versions for Thunderbird 102 can be found here:

• TbSync/DAV: TbSync/DAV for Thunderbird 102 DAV-4-TbSync#283
• TbSync/EAS: TbSync/EAS for Thunderbird 102 EAS-4-TbSync#167

To avoid dataloss, I will release TbSync for Thunderbird 102 only after https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1792399 has been backported to Thunderbird 102.

[fightuntilwedie]

Same here!

[jobisoft]

I am working on an upgrade, ETA 3 month.

[gerd-git]

Way back to TB91:

deinstall TB102
install TB91
copy profil
start tb91 with "thunderbird --allow-downgrade"
wait a few minutes
smile

[jobisoft]

I do not suggest downgrading. There is data being migrated from TB91 to TB102 (vCard storage in 102!!!!!) which is not reverted on downgrade, which can lead to massive data loss.

DO NOT DO IT!

[gerd-git]

Hm, i don't see problems with my downgrade. I still have my 102-profil save. I can't wait 2 weeks.

[derritter88]

Duplicate/linked to #590

[FlawlessCasual17]

Same here aswell

[j4Hu]

Thunderbird 102 has builtin support for remote calendars (ex: google) and address books (CardDav).
For google/gmail just enter xy@gmail.com as username when adding calendar (on network) or CardDav addressbook.

[jobisoft]

[jgato]

but for cardDav addresss book, How should I fill it?

[jgato]

ok, I can do something like:
foo.bar@gmail.com
and
https://www.googleapis.com/carddav/v1/principals/foo.bar@gmail.com/lists/default/

this import the contacts. But, what If it is a google app account with a directory inside the contacts. How do I export that "directory"?

[peci1]

Different from Google4TbSync, the integrated method does not sync contact groups.

[abysso2]

Does the native one also handle icloud contacts?

[jobisoft]

Don't know, try it.

[kwlorenz]

Yes, the native sync handles iCloud too, but not contact groups or contact photos; you have to use a application-specific password for the sync

[kiravi]

Just an FYI:
It is now officially 102.0.1 that Is released. With a new TBSync release the following may also need an update:

1. Provider for CalDAV & CardDAV
2. Provider for Exchange ActiveSync
3. Any other embedded providers for google/icloud/yahoo/aol etc.

[abysso2]

Yes, the native sync handles iCloud too, but not contact groups or contact photos; you have to use a application-specific password for the sync

Okay, a bit OT here, but: can you tell me the address of the iCloud CardDAV URL. I am not able to login with my app pw ...

[smmehta1822]

any update on tbsync fix for version 102 ?

[kwlorenz]

Yes, the native sync handles iCloud too, but not contact groups or contact photos; you have to use a application-specific password for the sync

Okay, a bit OT here, but: can you tell me the address of the iCloud CardDAV URL. I am not able to login with my app pw ...

I used solution 1 in this thread ...
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57920341/not-able-to-get-current-user-principal-for-user-from-apple-caldav-server
worked fine for me for the contacts, not for the calendar ...

[abysso2]

Did not succeed:

Tried myname@icloud.com as user, https://p58-caldav.icloud.com as account and then once more myname@icloud.com as user and an newly generted apppw.

Mhhhh ...

[mjmunger]

Same. Excitedly waiting for update...

On Debian 11.

[jmbmkn]

In case it helps anyone else. I thought I was waiting for the update to be abel to sync my Nextcloud calendars. I was easily able to add them using the native sync. Just added the base URL of my installation and entered my username and password, et voila

[wol-win]

Hello - quick question: any idea when Tbsync for TB 102 would be available? I am desperately awaiting it for syncing back with an Exchange Server. Thanks.

[jobisoft]

I will still need a couple of days.

[dbonner]

Thanks for the update. Just curious ... Do you know roughly when you expect to release the Provider for Exchange ActiveSync for TB 102?

[FlawlessCasual17]

I will still need a couple of days.

Good to hear. Thank you for your hard work.

[francwalter]

Yes, good to hear, I press you all thumbs 👍

Edit: just installed Cardbook and imported my Google addresses, works 👍
Thank the hint jobisoft!

[smmehta1822]

I will still need a couple of days.

Hello John, Sorry to bother you. Any update on the fix? TB version 102.3 is out.

[crti]

Thunderbird 102 has builtin support for remote calendars (ex: google) and address books (CardDav).
For google/gmail just enter xy@gmail.com as username when adding calendar (on network) or CardDav addressbook

to sync my Nextcloud calendars. I was easily able to add them using the native sync. Just added the base URL of my installation and entered my username and password, et voila

So far I stayed on TB 91.11.0 to continue to sync Nextcloud multiple calendars and contacts together with Android smartphones. Do I understand it correctly TB 102 natively supports sync of CalDAV calendars and CardDAV address books ? So when updating to 102 no add-on to sync to the Nextcloud CalDAV/CardDAV entries is needed? Or are there feature support differences between 102 native and TBSync Add-On? Thanks

[dsommers]

@GrizzlyAK TbSync has a few extra features which makes it way easier to use CardDAV and CalDAV.

• TbSync does auto-discovery of available calendars and address books. Provide service URL and credentials, and you get everything setup instantly.
• TbSync requires only a single set of username/password per server. The Thunderbird method requires providing credentials per calendar and address book. Which gets quite tedious when changing the password.

TbSync just gives a much better user experience than the native Thunderbird approach.

[gbakeman]

I have a Nextcloud instance that I use as my primary CalDAV/CardDAV server and I've been using just the native functionality to access it. My biggest complaint is that there's a delay between making changes and those being updated, but otherwise it works. I'd definitely like to see some improvements to the *DAV experience in Thunderbird, and for reference here's a search in the Bugzilla for anything relating to the string "calendar".

[dbonner]

If, for some of the commenters here, Exchange integration with TB is so important as they claim to be, 10 bucks a year would be a hell of a deal.

Hi, Kurti123 I do subscribe to Owl ($20/year for 2 Exchange accounts). I can't read emails without it. However, may main email address seems to have extra security measures around calendar syncing. TbSync works for calendar sync perfectly well. Owl seemed to work OK at first. However, if an appointment is deleted using Outlook (e.g. by work colleagues with access to my calendar) then the appointment fails to be deleted in Thunderbird (if I rely on Owl for calendar sync). The Owl guys are aware of my difficulties. However, they are stretched thin too at the moment.
All the best,
Daniel

[Michal-Szczepaniak]

Any update from the maintainer?

[arunskrish]

Same here .. any update? Thanks.

[jobisoft]

For the exchange active sync provider, please head over to:
jobisoft/EAS-4-TbSync#167

[Michal-Szczepaniak]

Yeah I'm more interested in Nextcloud :P

oh lol i'm stoopid you don't need this extension for nextcloud anymore

[dvestezar]

but for cardDav addresss book, How should I fill it?

tested, working

name = google mail = name@google.com
location = leave

click next - show up login - check adresbook - finish

[GrizzlyAK]

I admit I'm a little confused about what is possible or not in TB without TBsync. I moved to TB earlier this year from Outlook primarily because of the existence of TBSync, so I'm currently stuck on v91. I'm hoping someone in the know can help me out.

I have simple needs. I have several address books hosted on my web hosting provider. I use iCloud for my Calendar and Tasks. All of this works wonderfully on TBSync.

I've installed Cardbook, and it seems to work for my address books, but I do not prefer it over TBSync. However, I don't know of an iCloud calendar replacement for TBSync. If anyone has similar basic needs like mine and have found a suitable replacement for TBSync for Card/CalDAV, please let me know what they are. I'd like to update TB and it sounds like this incompatibility will not be resolved any time soon.

Any advice would be appreciated.

[dsommers]

@GrizzlyAK How I see it, TBSync adds the last missing glue to Thunderbird which makes use of CardDAV and CalDAV simpler and more user friendly.

For example with stock Thunderbird ; the URL needed must be exactly to just a single calendar or contacts file. And you need to provide credentials for that specific file. If you want to add more calendars or contacts, it's the same steps for each of them; even if it is on the same server. Find the unique URL to what you need, provide credentials.

With TBSync ... You add a new CalDAV/CardDAV server, provide a generic URL to that service. TBSync supports auto-discovery of all available calendars and contact books. So after giving it the URL to the service/server, TBSync asks for credentials and retrieves everything available. The next you do is to just mark all the calendards and address books available, and Thunderbird is full configured. This can easily be tested with Radicale, which provides auto-discovery support as well.

TBSync is also extensible to support more protocols, like Exchange OWA. I know there's been some work on EteSync support as well; which would be awesome (you wouldn't need the EteSync DAVBridge running locally).

[jim-davenport]

I am using the TBSync Beta on 102.2.2. Everything seems to work with the exception of this sync error on my Hotmail contacts.

Unable to set DisplayName as a property, use vCardProperties

setProperty@resource:///modules/AddrBookCard.jsm:371:13
setProperty@chrome://tbsync/content/modules/addressbook.js:381:20
setThunderbirdItemFromWbxml@chrome://eas4tbsync/content/includes/contactsync.js:145:28
processCommands@chrome://eas4tbsync/content/includes/sync.js:933:53

[jgato]

how did you get the beta version?

[jim-davenport]

Early version. Not to be used in production. jobisoft/EAS-4-TbSync#167 (comment)

[aries223]

I admit I'm a little confused about what is possible or not in TB without TBsync. I moved to TB earlier this year from Outlook primarily because of the existence of TBSync, so I'm currently stuck on v91. I'm hoping someone in the know can help me out.

I have simple needs. I have several address books hosted on my web hosting provider. I use iCloud for my Calendar and Tasks. All of this works wonderfully on TBSync.

I've installed Cardbook, and it seems to work for my address books, but I do not prefer it over TBSync. However, I don't know of an iCloud calendar replacement for TBSync. If anyone has similar basic needs like mine and have found a suitable replacement for TBSync for Card/CalDAV, please let me know what they are. I'd like to update TB and it sounds like this incompatibility will not be resolved any time soon.

Any advice would be appreciated.

@GrizzlyAK I use TB 102.2.2 and have it working just fine with the buit in Cal/CardDav. Its not difficult to set up, you just need to figure out the string for each ical calendar manually.

Begin reading here, I get it setup with another users help.
#591 (comment)

[GrizzlyAK]

And everything syncs both ways OK for both address books and calendars? I was under the impression the calendar was only read only. Are you using iCloud calendars by chance?

[aries223]

And everything syncs both ways OK for both address books and calendars? I was under the impression the calendar was only read only. Are you using iCloud calendars by chance?<

@GrizzlyAK Yes everything syncs fine, both ways. Yes I use iCloud for calendars and contacts, and use TB on an iMac, Windows 10 and Linux machines. All sync both ways just fine.

Edit: I dont know about the "subscribable collaborators agends" commented above, not sure what that is..

[GrizzlyAK]

Very cool! I'll give it a try. Thank you!

[aries223]

@GrizzlyAK This link is what I used for manually determining the iCal calender URL:
https://frightanic.com/apple-mac/thunderbird-icloud-calendar-sync/

Unfortunately the link to the Addressbook part of this is now 404. Youll have to figure that part out, maybe try the script link..

[to82]

Thank you for all the great work that goes into TBSync and it is greatly appreciated. With the internal CardDAV solution we have the problem that distribution lists are not synchronized as well. CardBook would possibly go, but needs training of colleagues. The nice thing is that the address books from TBSync show up in the regular address book. Will it be possible to synchronize distribution lists again with the new version? There was a sync issue in TBSync as well, which is why there was the checkbox for contact group sync. When can we expect a new version. A big thanks already!

[hellsbelz]

I was using TBSync just a couple of weeks before TB was updated automatically and I gut stuck in the "incompatility trap". I used it for syncing my adressbook with the iCloud, which worked perfectly. I would like to thank @jobisoft for his great work so far to encourage him to solve the incompatibility issue.

[jobisoft]

There is now an update for TbSync/DAV available here:
jobisoft/DAV-4-TbSync#283

For reference, the update for TbSync/EAS is available here:
jobisoft/EAS-4-TbSync#167

To avoid dataloss, I will release TbSync for Thunderbird 102 only after https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1792399 has been backported to Thunderbird 102.

[jobisoft]

Released on ATN.