Alternative to blanket 'stop devolution' statement

[dangerousbeans]

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[PaulJRobinson]

I like your proposal for a written constitution, although I think we
already have a PR proposing that somewhere else - I'll have to check. I do
think it's compatible with having a fully devolved (ie Federal) state
though.

What is it about a federal system (ie separate Welsh, English, Scottish
Parliaments etc governing Health, Education, Justice etc, with a single
Westminster Parliament for UK matters) that you think would not achieve
your aim of catering for diverse needs in various communities? Would you
mind setting out which localities you see your "localised government" being
divided into? (ie counties; regions; towns) And also for which subject
areas or departments (ie health, defence, taxation etc). At the moment I
think devolution is a model that has worked well in Scotland, and I'm happy
to see that model replicated in the other nations of the UK. I'd like to
learn more about your proposal before backing this PR.

with kind regards,
Paul Robinson

about.me/pauljrobinson

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[frankieroberto]

I agree that it's worth pulling apart the constitution issue from local governments.

Regarding 'locally elected governments', this is a little vague. We already have locally elected bodies of various types. The key questions are what areas of what sizes they cover (counties? cities? villages, scotland/wales/NI?), what powers they have, and how they're elected.

[Floppy]

Yes, we now have a constitution suggested in a few different places. I'll see if I can separate that one out, which will let us simplify these others. #85 is the other one I can think of immediately.

[dangerousbeans]

Okay I think I was generating some confusion by misunderstanding the word 'devolution' to mean completely the opposite of what it meant.

To simplify, I'm in favour of devolution within the UK, as in I'm in favour of increasing the control that county-wide government has over their area, together with continuing to allow the freedoms of Wales, England and Scotland, with maybe further scope for island communities and similar.

[Floppy]

We now have a constitution in the main manifesto, so it could be removed from here. @dangerousbeans, do you want to update this?

[Floppy]

I think this needs rewriting to take into account changes now in the main branch. We do need a general (and ideally consistent) statement on devolution though.

[Floppy]

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