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When using the "BOOT" command to enter the ROM monitor on the VAXstation 4000 VLC simulator, garbage characters appear on the console before the ">>>" prompt is shown. These garbage characters also seem to be seen by a running operating system attempting to use the console.
When this occurs there are at least three garbage characters (there may be non-printing characters that I just can't see), and seem to include a newline followed by "6c". The garbage characters are always the same every time they appear.
I do not observe this issue in any of the other VAX simulators that include a ROM bootstrap - just this one.
the output of "sim> SHOW VERSION" while running the simulator which is having the issue
sim> show version
VAXstation 4000-VLC (KA48) simulator V4.0-0 Current
Simulator Framework Capabilities:
64b data
64b addresses
Threaded Ethernet Packet transports:TAP:NAT:UDP
Idle/Throttling support is available
Virtual Hard Disk (VHD) support
RAW disk and CD/DVD ROM support
Asynchronous I/O support (Lock free asynchronous event queue)
Asynchronous Clock support
FrontPanel API Version 12
Host Platform:
Compiler: GCC 11.2.1 20211203 (Red Hat 11.2.1-7)
Simulator Compiled as C arch: x64 (Release Build) on Jan 10 2022 at 15:55:39
Build Tool: simh-makefile
Memory Access: Little Endian
Memory Pointer Size: 64 bits
Large File (>2GB) support
SDL Video support: No Video Support
PCRE RegEx (Version 8.45 2021-06-15) support for EXPECT commands
OS clock resolution: 1ms
Time taken by msleep(1): 1ms
OS: Linux _(hostname redacted)_ 5.15.12-200.fc35.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Dec 29 15:03:38 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
tar tool: tar (GNU tar) 1.34
curl tool: curl 7.79.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.79.1 OpenSSL/1.1.1l-fips zlib/1.2.11 brotli/1.0.9 libidn2/2.3.2 libpsl/0.21.1 (+libidn2/2.3.2) libssh/0.9.6/openssl/zlib nghttp2/1.45.1 OpenLDAP/2.4.59
git commit id: 7756a38e
git commit time: 2022-01-10T04:08:44-0800
how you built the simulator or that you're using prebuilt binaries
$ make vaxstation4000vlc
lib paths are: /lib/ /lib64/ /usr/lib64/dyninst/ /usr/lib64/iscsi/ /usr/lib64/llvm11/lib/ /usr/lib64/llvm12/lib/ /usr/lib64/pipewire-0.3/jack/ /usr/lib64/tcl8.6/ /usr/lib/
include paths are: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/11/include /usr/local/include /usr/include
using libm: /lib64/libm.so
using librt: /lib64/librt.a
using libpthread: /lib64/libpthread.a /usr/include/pthread.h
using libpcre: /lib64/libpcre.so /usr/include/pcre.h
using semaphore: /usr/include/semaphore.h
using libdl: /lib64/libdl.a /usr/include/dlfcn.h
using libpng: /lib64/libpng.so /usr/include/png.h
using zlib: /lib64/libz.so /usr/include/zlib.h
using mman: /usr/include/sys/mman.h
*** Warning ***
*** Warning *** vaxstation4000vlc Simulator is being built WITHOUT
*** Warning *** libpcap networking support
*** Warning ***
*** Warning *** To build simulator(s) with libpcap networking support you
*** Warning *** should read 0readme_ethernet.txt and follow the instructions
*** Warning *** regarding the needed libpcap development components for your
*** Warning *** Linux platform
*** Warning ***
*** Info ***
*** Info *** Simulators on your Linux platform can also be built with
*** Info *** extended LAN Ethernet networking support by using VDE Ethernet.
*** Info ***
*** Info *** To build simulator(s) with extended networking support you
*** Info *** should read 0readme_ethernet.txt and follow the instructions
*** Info *** regarding the needed libvdeplug components for your Linux
*** Info *** platform
*** Info ***
***
*** vaxstation4000vlc Simulator being built with:
*** - compiler optimizations and no debugging support. GCC Version: 11.2.1.
*** - Local LAN packet transports: TAP NAT(SLiRP)
*** - Per simulator tests will be run.
***
*** git commit id is 7756a38e315cd189619158443b84480a8c63a732.
*** git commit time is 2022-01-10T04:08:44-0800.
***
gcc -std=gnu99 -U__STRICT_ANSI__ -O2 -finline-functions -fgcse-after-reload -fpredictive-commoning -fipa-cp-clone -fno-unsafe-loop-optimizations -fno-strict-overflow -DSIM_GIT_COMMIT_ID=7756a38e315cd189619158443b84480a8c63a732 -DSIM_GIT_COMMIT_TIME=2022-01-10T04:08:44-0800 -DSIM_COMPILER="GCC Version: 11.2.1" -DSIM_BUILD_TOOL=simh-makefile -I . -D_GNU_SOURCE -DUSE_READER_THREAD -DSIM_ASYNCH_IO -DHAVE_PCRE_H -DHAVE_SEMAPHORE -DHAVE_SYS_IOCTL -DHAVE_LINUX_CDROM -DSIM_HAVE_DLOPEN=so -DHAVE_UTIME -DHAVE_LIBPNG -DHAVE_ZLIB -DHAVE_GLOB -DHAVE_SHM_OPEN ./VAX/vax_cpu.c ./VAX/vax_cpu1.c ./VAX/vax_fpa.c ./VAX/vax_cis.c ./VAX/vax_octa.c ./VAX/vax_cmode.c ./VAX/vax_mmu.c ./VAX/vax_sys.c ./VAX/vax_syscm.c ./VAX/vax_watch.c ./VAX/vax_nar.c ./VAX/vax4xx_stddev.c ./VAX/vax440_sysdev.c ./VAX/vax440_syslist.c ./VAX/vax4xx_dz.c ./VAX/vax_xs.c ./VAX/vax_lk.c ./VAX/vax_vs.c ./VAX/vax4xx_rz94.c ./sim_scsi.c ./scp.c ./sim_console.c ./sim_fio.c ./sim_timer.c ./sim_sock.c ./sim_tmxr.c ./sim_ether.c ./sim_tape.c ./sim_disk.c ./sim_serial.c ./sim_video.c ./sim_imd.c ./sim_card.c -DVM_VAX -DVAX_440 -DUSE_INT64 -DUSE_ADDR64 -I ./VAX -DHAVE_TAP_NETWORK -DUSE_NETWORK -Islirp -Islirp_glue -Islirp_glue/qemu -DHAVE_SLIRP_NETWORK -DUSE_SIMH_SLIRP_DEBUG slirp/*.c slirp_glue/*.c -DVAX_48 -o BIN/vaxstation4000vlc -lm -lrt -lpthread -lpcre -ldl -lpng -lz
BIN/vaxstation4000vlc RegisterSanityCheck /home/pbarron/src/simh/VAX/tests/vax-diag_test.ini </dev/null
Running internal register sanity checks on VAXstation 4000-VLC (KA48) simulator.
*** Good Registers in VAXstation 4000-VLC (KA48) simulator.
VAXstation 4000-VLC (KA48) simulator V4.0-0 Current git commit id: 7756a38e
No diagnostics are available for the VAXstation 4000-VLC (KA48) Simulator
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the simulator configuration file (or commands) which were used when the problem occurred.
The only configuration command I used before attempting to boot was "SET ROM NODELAY" (which is necessary due to issue #1113 but I have observed that this issue still occurs even without disabling the ROM delay).
This instance of SIMH is running under Fedora 35, on a VMware virtual machine provisioned on a VMware ESXi hypervisor.
Note that the newline near the end, and the "6c" characters, were not typed by me - they spontaneously appeared.
If we attach a boot device to this simulator, and boot it, we see the same thing when the operating system comes up:
>>>
Simulation stopped, PC: 2004ABA8 (SUBL2 R2,R0)
sim> set rz1 cdrom
sim> attach rz1 NetBSD-9.2-vax.iso
RZ1: Unit is read only
sim> c
>>> show dev
VMS/VMB ADDR DEVTYPE NUMBYTES RM/FX WP DEVNAM REV
------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -- ------ ---
ESA0 08-00-2B-A1-00-94
DKA0 A/0/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 0A18
DKA100 A/1/0 RODISK 342.57MB RM WP RRD40 250D
DKA200 A/2/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 0A18
DKA300 A/3/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 0A18
DKA400 A/4/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 0A18
DKA500 A/5/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 0A18
..HostID.. A/6 INITR
DKA700 A/7/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 0A18
>>> boot dka100
-DKA100
>> NetBSD/vax boot [1.12 (Wed May 12 13:15:55 UTC 2021)] <<
>> Press any key to abort autoboot 5
Press '?' for help
> {?6c
As before, the garbage characters at the end were not typed by me. I can backspace over them and issue the "boot" command manually.
Interestingly, when I boot the OS, it panics immediately (due to some type of SCSI-related error that may or may not be related to SIMH), and drops into the OS debugger - and I get the OS debugger prompt without any garbage characters. I'm not sure what's different between the way the OS bootstrap prompts for input, and the way the debugger prompts for input.
The garbage characters are the same every time they appear - they do not vary from run to run.
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Are you using a terminal emulator that responds to a DA (device attributes) escape sequence? The firmware may be trying to detect the attached terminal type by sending a CSI 0c and the response is not expected.
As an update, I updated to commit 1cffbd5, and somewhere along the line my issue with having to do SET ROM NODELAY went away (at least for the most part - see the ticket mentioned above for details). Without the SET ROM NODELAY, I can boot to the ROM bootstrap, and I do not get the garbage characters - but, I still get the same garbage characters from the OS bootstrap. If I do SET ROM NODELAY (even in the new build), the garbage characters appear both when booting to the ROM bootstrap, and from the OS bootstrap, as described above.
I wonder if this is some sort of timing problem with how the console serial port is accessed by these bootstraps? Just speculation.
Context
When using the "BOOT" command to enter the ROM monitor on the VAXstation 4000 VLC simulator, garbage characters appear on the console before the ">>>" prompt is shown. These garbage characters also seem to be seen by a running operating system attempting to use the console.
When this occurs there are at least three garbage characters (there may be non-printing characters that I just can't see), and seem to include a newline followed by "
6c
". The garbage characters are always the same every time they appear.I do not observe this issue in any of the other VAX simulators that include a ROM bootstrap - just this one.
the output of "sim> SHOW VERSION" while running the simulator which is having the issue
how you built the simulator or that you're using prebuilt binaries
the simulator configuration file (or commands) which were used when the problem occurred.
The only configuration command I used before attempting to boot was "SET ROM NODELAY" (which is necessary due to issue #1113 but I have observed that this issue still occurs even without disabling the ROM delay).
This instance of SIMH is running under Fedora 35, on a VMware virtual machine provisioned on a VMware ESXi hypervisor.
the expected behavior and the actual behavior
Note that the newline near the end, and the "
6c
" characters, were not typed by me - they spontaneously appeared.If we attach a boot device to this simulator, and boot it, we see the same thing when the operating system comes up:
As before, the garbage characters at the end were not typed by me. I can backspace over them and issue the "boot" command manually.
Interestingly, when I boot the OS, it panics immediately (due to some type of SCSI-related error that may or may not be related to SIMH), and drops into the OS debugger - and I get the OS debugger prompt without any garbage characters. I'm not sure what's different between the way the OS bootstrap prompts for input, and the way the debugger prompts for input.
The garbage characters are the same every time they appear - they do not vary from run to run.
The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: