Saturday-Swarm-Session - 11th September 2021

[stephen-rowan]

Saturday-Swarm-Session - 11th September 2021

• Moderator ?

Breakout Sessions

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Victor	Tevo	11.09.2021	How to be a CA
Felix		11.09.2021	Community Rewarding system	Currently, the Catalyst Community does not have the possibility to track and reward engagement. What can a first draft look like ?
Jakob	Stephen	11.09.2021	Future of Swarm: Reputation System	Possible PRISM integration and giving tokens to people who join meets
Melanie	Simon	11.09.2022	Climate Change

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[stephen-rowan]

Future of Swarm: Reputation Systems

• Possible PRISM integration and giving tokens to people who join meets

Introductions :

• In early Bitcoin had have interactive verification of reputation to purchase
• Verification of reputation
• ID is one issue - DIDs is trying to solve - aim to prove how you are - reputation is a whole different subject - Filip
• DID does not address whether should I be trusted or not - more philosophical than technical problem - Filip
• reputation is totally different from credentials - Quasar
• At the end of the Plutus program you got a certificate - having certain reputation - Jakob
• First cohort of Plutus pioneers required owners to mint NFT - so a mixture of credentials and reputation - Stephen
• Certain kinds of reputation associated with some forms of ID (e.g. Harvard) etc. Ken
• Reputation can pass from the issuer of the ID to the receipt - Jakob
• Security issues - system can create profiles of ID issue - so the issue is how to verify reputation without profiling - Vincent
• reputation by authority vs reputation by peers - Tyler
• Different languages, experiences - trust is cultural - the same social credit others have - this is what I mean by context - Marta
• Do we need taxonomies - reputation is give not taken - Nori
• Build up a foundation of things we need - for reputation and ID - Nori
• sounds like zero knowledge proof - Tyler
• If we think reputation as set of predicates - is person qualified etc - then others can only search predicates - Vincent
• Nevertheless sets of predicates can provide ID inferences ? - Stephen
• Also Ricardian contracts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardian_contract ) - Stephen
• Subscribe to sets of predicate logics - Vincent
• Question for Vincent - privatizing data - Government does scan of what people are doing - how do you handle refusal of data provision - Benjamin
• Decentralized storage mechanism - IPFS - Vincent
• You could decide where to store your personal data based on privacy and availability tradeoffs - Nori
• Be careful to keep out exploitation and bad actors - Marta
• Clarify difference between credentials and reputation - how these things can be easily accessed - Nori
• Building secure reputation systems is tricky - - People ascribe sub credits onto a credential - Vincent
• We also need to be mindful of different legislation around the world that can impact implementation or requirements, ex: https://gdpr-info.eu/chapter-3/ - Nori
• Reputation is a way of looking at trust - web of trust - build a set of trust - transitive - Adam
• How do you recognize non-credential reputation - how do you judge reputation of a good artist - Plamen
• Reputation and trust has a nested structure - credentials spread out through the web of trust - Zero knowledge proof- Tyler
• Linked-in has a form of “I trust x to do y” that forms a kind of reputation system - Nori
• Avatars in games associated with different skills - Kerstin
• Credentials always third parties involved - reputations are subjective - Juan
• No reason we can have it all - engineering solution - Vincent
• We could build system - for example male programmers - subsets of reputation - has to be some opening or grey area - Marta
• Some random solution or wildcard - Stephen
• I believe that "know how" is always more relevant that sex, age, etc. the boundaries are fading out now a days. - Juan
• The idea of randomize is good if you are trying to get out of set situation s- from predicates to permissions - Ken
• Give permission only check certain type of reputation - how can people see negative credentials - reputation - Adam
• Transparency of the interrogation of reputation - Juan
• If you give someone provenance over data - assume they will not self-assign negative reputation - Vincent
• Weighting search results - track with a person with the rest of their life - Marta
• Not strictly about moment - claims being made - all parties have access to that claim - burnable systems - Quasar
• Set of keys - more wallets with positive transactions - Quasar
• The identity only exists at the moment it is needed - mint as "access nft" burn after access is granted - Tyler
• Data dignity - Marta
• and the sovereignty part of this is about the data not the identity - not only Atala Prism there are other solutions - Quasar
• Authority grants NFTs - reflect on process - stack overflow - reputation of 10k - means nothing - we should visualize reputation - have dome something -Benjamin
• Having a history of reputation - blockchain is great for that - if that is destroyed what are you left with ? - parallel trace of immutability - Marta
• You need another blockchain - to check on the other - how the system can gamed - it is difficult to self promote - Vincent

References

Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) v1.0 - Core architecture, data model, and representations

• https://www.w3.org/TR/did-core/ -
• https://github.com/w3c-ccg
• https://www.w3.org/community/

atala-prism

• https://www.atixlabs.com/atala-prism
• https://www.atixlabs.com/didi

F6: Atala PRISM DID Mass-Scale Adoption - Challenge -

• https://cardano.ideascale.com/a/campaign-home/26116

Interplanetary File System

• Interplanetary File System - https://ipfs.io/

Danielle_Citron

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Citron
• https://www.daniellecitron.com/
• • Law's Expressive Value in Combating Cyber Gender Harassment - https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1300&context=mlr

[QuasarChains]

In regards to the atixlabs link, I would suggest an examination of their other identity solution, DIDI. I believe it is actively open sourced.

[stephen-rowan]

In regards to the atixlabs link, I would suggest an examination of their other identity solution, DIDI. I believe it is actively open sourced.

Added to weblinks under atala-prism

[DanM3rcurius]

What if reputation would be derived from value added over time from specific contributions?