Interested in writing a package manager?

[firefish111]

I was thinking on calling it twilight or dusk, which do you think?
Also for the package manager should I go for a normal C program piggybacking on libcurl or a node.js script for getting data from the cdn?

[alexapostolu]

Hmm... I'm not really fond of changing the name. Also for the package manager, I've never really played around with one before, so I have no clue how it works. Could you explain more about what the package manager will do?

[firefish111]

Well, just take raw night source code from the CDN and plonk it into a folder that the compiler uses the import statement to know
which modules in the directory to import.
If you don't like a name change to something night-related then plop it in the binary? Would be hard to get http libraries in C++, would be better to have external thing written in go which is a language designed for http stuff, like node and npm, two separate binaries.

[alexapostolu]

huh?

[firefish111]

Alright, you probably won't see this message because you just fell asleep and I just woke up. Érd.
Alright, I'm making the thing. It's 8am for me now, expect it to be almost done by the time you read this. (~4pm my time)
I'm calling it dusk, because it's before a night, and you need to install packages before you can do anything with them in your Night script. I can rename it, but it has to be short otherwise your "customer" for the lack of a better word, might just not use it because they don't want to type nightpkg over and over again, because it's too long (just an example). Like npm. short, easy to remember, easy to type a lot. npm i express are probably the first thing a newbie to node types, because express is the most common server library in existence. (I am aware this is a bit long, so I'll cut it short here... we can talk later)

[firefish111]

Alright, it's very simple, BUT IT WORKS. check out https://github.com/johnstev111/dusk/

[alexapostolu]

okay but you still haven't told me what this package manager does

[firefish111]

Well, it just takes raw night source code from the CDN and plonk it into a folder that the compiler uses the import statement to know
which modules in the directory to import.

I have

[alexapostolu]

no clue what that means.... cdn? import statement?

[firefish111]

CDN means Content Delivery Network, like jsdelivr. Some server that hosts a bunch of code. The import statement. Like python, you see

import time
import flask
import tkinter

those are import statements. They are statements, that import.

[firefish111]

So, it means that when you type, for example in night use lalala; (don't have to use that syntax, but there isn't one currently so I made one up) the compiler would say take the pre-processor and replace that use lalala; with the contents of ./dusk_modules/lalala.night. It's a bit complex, I know, but just bear with me.

[alexapostolu]

why would I need a package manager though?

[firefish111]

you said you wanted some sort of a #include-like statement.... I was helping you.... like python doesn't have all those packages baked in one binary, they're stored on PyPI, the Python Package Index, which is basically a fancy CDN.

[alexapostolu]

OHHHHH is that why python has so packages? I was thinking of just putting everything into one binary, but I guess I could have different packages...

[alexapostolu]

so the dusk_modules folder, that's where I write all my packages?

[firefish111]

Er... no, you plop them on the CDN. The dusk_modules directory is where the modules are installed locally. The cdn is hosted on repl.it, I'll invite you now (it's called duskcdn)

[AntimatterReactor]

well, have just seen this, it's an interesting idea tbh

[AntimatterReactor]

gotta help i guess

[AntimatterReactor]

i have look at the code... i... i realize i don't know how to code in go-lang :/

[ghost]

@AntimatterReactor @DynamicSquid @johnstev111
Can i help. I can create a command line tool for you like npmg.exe --install [package_name] BUT we need to make a repository for that using an index server for github releases.

i have created web installers (installers that download a script from the web to somewhere else on the disk)

[alexapostolu]

Uh sure I guess! I was talking with jonstev and we made a plan that we'd have two repositories, Night, and the External code, and use MinGW to compile them both, so they can be run fairly easily. I'm not really sure though, @johnstev111 has more information. I'm actually really clueless on this kind of stuff

[ghost]

@DynamicSquid ok - i invited you to the repl

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid Squod, look. Lethdev can't compile python into ELF binaries that easily, and remember CROSS PLATFROM, and this needs to be a binary, so I woud've done node, that's why I chose Golang. As simple as that.
No scripting, and also, was literally half-way through adding to it, if you wanna help, I mean Golang only took 5 hours to learn

[ghost]

@johnstev111 @DynamicSquid WELL NOW I CAN'T BECAUSE ALL THE CODE IS MAGICALLY MISSING.

[firefish111]

well what happened, i can recover it

[alexapostolu]

uhhh no clue what's going on, but yeah sure I guess I'll go with johnstev

[alexapostolu]

lol I love that quote "magically missing"

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid lol it says pks not dusk_pkgs. does this imply you want to change?

[CodeLongAndProsper90]

We should call the Debugger dawn

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid You know what I was gonna ORIGINALLY call dusk? day.

[CodeLongAndProsper90]

Uh

[firefish111]

@CodeLongAndProsper90 boom. shattered. uh-oh he found us, take him to the barbecue!

[alexapostolu]

@firefish111 pkgs it is

[alexapostolu]

@firefish111, @CodeLongAndProsper90 do you guys know how to link a exe file with a HTML download button?

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid oki I will modify le dusk to suit

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid You do markdown image with onclick, dat how

[alexapostolu]

@firefish111 I need a link for dusk.exe

[firefish111]

Ye, make an html server that does le download, or do you want le exe file? put le exe file in le release, then make le markdown image inside a link to le same link to le release exe. le oki?

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid also what is handeling, it's handling

[alexapostolu]

@firefish111 Wait what no I just need a link to the exe file.

[firefish111]

@CodeLongAndProsper90 github better

@DynamicSquid for le link you need to OPLOAD LE EXE

[alexapostolu]

Damn, it crashed my pluggin lol

[alexapostolu]

Okay it worked!

[alexapostolu]

But it keeps telling me that it's a virus could you fix that? I don't think that's really good for the customer experience.

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid lol no, that's your problem, your browser says that "eXe fIlEs mUsT bE mAlIcIoUs" but not always true, I can report it being safe for you also do you use edge

[alexapostolu]

@firefish111 i use chrome

[alexapostolu]

https://night-website.dynamicsquid.repl.co/html/dusk.html

[alexapostolu]

@firefish111 How do I combine dusk.exe and night.exe into one exe? Same for the Linux variants?

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid WHAT NO PLOZ DELETE LE LINK, le réal link is le here

• for windows: https://github.com/firefish111/dusk/releases/download/v1.0-alpha/dusk.exe
• for linux: https://github.com/firefish111/dusk/releases/download/v1.0-alpha/dusk

aha lol for dat i need to use a thing called CGo, can you reséarch please?

[firefish111]

lol help me i slow sed -e 's/dusk_pkgs/pkgs/g' -i dusk.go

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid have i lost contact, I need you to read my previous massgaes

[alexapostolu]

@firefish111 Don't worry it's all working fine. I put the bins in the repl

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid not the right ones, gosh

[alexapostolu]

@firefish111 wait what

[alexapostolu]

@firefish111 well, Imma do that later. time to take a break

[firefish111]

@DynamicSquid yes lol let's do