Karma toggle in the main menu is confusing #13147
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Not to mention, in terms of it's actual intended purpose as some kind of automod it does not perform very well. It is very easy to exploit by any determined griefer (by indirect sabotage and tricking the system to cause other people to lose karma other than them) while simultaneously getting in the way of people trying to play the game organically; either by friendly fire, medical treatment, or bizarre ship-damage calculations. I notice alot of crews with 'karma' enabled tend to play very passively and avoid personal agency so as to not step on the toes of the karma system, to give a specific example; being less aggressive in responding to threats on the ship for fear of accidental friendly fire, or being unable to use grenades on ballast flora (a well known trick by pretty much everybody) due to it 'damaging the ship'
That is a polite way of putting it yes, |
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Disclaimers
What happened?
The title "Playing with friends?" does not tell you that it disables karma unless you hover over it and read the tooltip. It also words karma as something that should be left enabled most of the time, which is not true.
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Reproduction steps
Open the game.
Click on "Host server"
Notice that it tells you nowhere besides hovering over the button that "Playing with friends?" disables karma, and if you DO hover over it, the wording is incredibly favourable towards the system.
Bug prevalence
Happens every time I play
Single player or multiplayer?
Multiplayer hosted from the in-game menu (= using a listen server)
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Version
v1.1.19.3 (Treacherous Tides Hotfix 2)
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Which operating system did you encounter this bug on?
Windows
Relevant error messages and crash reports
No response
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