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[FEM] Missing 1D beam analysis example for Start WB due to upstream CCX wrong results for 1D beam #5701

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FreeCAD-Bug-Importer opened this issue Feb 7, 2022 · 4 comments · Fixed by #12871
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3rd party: CalculiX WB FEM Related to the FEM Workbench

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FreeCAD-Bug-Importer commented Feb 7, 2022

Issue imported from https://tracker.freecad.org/view.php?id=3056

  • Reporter: @berndhahnebach
  • Date submitted: 5/28/2017
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  • Category: Feature
  • Status: confirmed
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The start wb only has FEM 3D and 2D analysis example of CalculiX cantilever. This is because the 1D example gives results an engineer would not expect. At the moment no example is added but the 1D beams are still supported.

I opened the bug report to have a reference. I have been in contact with the developer of CalculiX, the FEM solver we use. There seems to be some mathematical reasons for the problem.

Everything could be read at the forum topic:
https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=16044

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  • Priority: normal
  • Severity: feature
  • Category: Feature
  • Updated: 2/6/2021

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Comment by @berndhahnebach 2020-01-09 10:59

related: https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=42294

@FreeCAD-Bug-Importer FreeCAD-Bug-Importer added Feature FR for improvements or new features WB FEM Related to the FEM Workbench labels Feb 7, 2022
@luzpaz luzpaz changed the title FEM, 1D beam analysis example for Start WB and wrong results for 1D beam [FEM]1D beam analysis example for Start WB and wrong results for 1D beam May 13, 2022
@luzpaz luzpaz changed the title [FEM]1D beam analysis example for Start WB and wrong results for 1D beam [FEM ]1D beam analysis example for Start WB and wrong results for 1D beam May 13, 2022
@luzpaz luzpaz changed the title [FEM ]1D beam analysis example for Start WB and wrong results for 1D beam [FEM] 1D beam analysis example for Start WB and wrong results for 1D beam May 13, 2022
@luzpaz luzpaz added Bug This issue or PR is related to a bug and removed Feature FR for improvements or new features labels Feb 19, 2023
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luzpaz commented Mar 8, 2023

@ickby also confirmed this issue

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I do not belive we will be able to fix it for 0.21. This is a problem by design of CalculiX. AFAIK the situation improved around 2020, but AFAIK in some circumstances Calculix still gives resultes an engineer would not expect for 1D analysis.

Do you have any special reason for bringing this up? Is there someone around who is willing to have a look at this?

cheers bernd

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luzpaz commented Apr 19, 2023

Sorry, bad assumption on my part @berndhahnebach 🙏
I was just concerned that we're shipping a faulty example file and would prefer to have it fixed before v0.21 release. Didn't realize it was a deeper design issue.

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Because of this issue we do not have a 1D FEM example on start WB.

@berndhahnebach berndhahnebach removed the Bug This issue or PR is related to a bug label Apr 22, 2023
@luzpaz luzpaz changed the title [FEM] 1D beam analysis example for Start WB and wrong results for 1D beam [FEM] Missing 1D beam analysis example for Start WB due to upstream CCX wrong results for 1D beam Apr 22, 2023
@luzpaz luzpaz added the 3rd party component Issue related to 3rd party component label Apr 22, 2023
@Roy-043 Roy-043 added 3rd party: CalculiX and removed 3rd party component Issue related to 3rd party component labels Jul 29, 2023
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