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    "message": "For anyone joining a startup, or currently part of one, I just wrote up a sizeable post on some bad-experiences I've had in 2015. I thought it might be valuable posting it here, if you can learn from and avoid some pretty big mistakes that I made. Here's to 2016.\n\n",
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        "message": "What a shit article.\nFirst you start by enumerating your failures and calling out people involved *by name* (which, by the way, is a great first impression of your probably objectionable personality), then after many paragraphs of one-sided stories, shift without the clutch into a generic and Silicon-Valley-worthy (the satirical TV show, not the actual demographic of hard-working entrepreneurs) startup pitch full of words that have grown to mean nothing. Why do you think this venture will end any better than your previous ones? Why are we to believe that this endeavor won't end in you speaking poorly of it once you latch onto a new idea in a few months, just like the previous ones you've so openly discussed? Why does the word \"money\" occur 14 times in your article and the word \"passion\" occur only once?\nBecause you represent exactly what is wrong with (and harmful to) the tech industry. Create and innovate for the purpose of self-fulfillment and/or benefiting the progression of the human race and not for the number of zeroes in your bank account, or get out of the way and let the real creators and innovators do their thing.",
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            "message": "Matt, it doesn't sound like you've ever worked at a startup before. When you're an employee of a startup, money matters because you're putting in twice as many hours as employees who work 9-5s. It's only until it's your startup are you willing to give up everything to solve a problem you're passionate about. So much truth in the article. I'll also vouch for the fact that some founders are so \"passionate\" about their idea that they\"ll justify out-of-character behavior to stay afloat.",
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            "message": "Thanks for the kind words Sammy Soto! :-) You're obviously a Founder kicking-ass and knows what's up. From being a co-founder at an already existing startup, to an employee at an agency, to an actual founder, there's certainly many subtleties as to time vs. money vs. passion etc, you're right about that!\n\nLove your out-of-character remark, that is brilliant. Totally true!",
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        "message": "I don't think you should badmouth and list names of the boss and company you work for. It looks really bad and you are just creating a bad name for yourself in the tech industry for being a spiller.",
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        "message": "Spelling and grammatical issues notwithstanding, I don't think this is the way to approach the bad experiences you've had. While I appreciate the candor, it isn't right to list names. If the companies are as bad as you say they are, those in the industry will recognise them without your explicit mention. I fear this will hurt you more than your intended targets, as no one - including me - will be willing to work with you for this reason. It might be better instead for you to have focused on the things you learned and how you've moved forward since then.",
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        "message": "John I understand.",
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            "message": "Good to hear Ethan Keiser! :-)",
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        "message": "Matt Mokary Honestly, cheers man for the honest comment! I feel as though my life is getting brutal feedback, adjusting, and bettering myself from there.\n\nI've been doing this company for 12 months now, with solid momentum. I absolutely fucking love it, the industry, and the goal behind it.\n\nThis post was very blunt, because it's how I feel it should be. I'd love to mention passion a ton of times, but that's really what's wrong with the tech industry, too many people talking shit about \"making the world a better place\".\n\nI will indeed be making the lives of my customers significantly better through out product. So that is what I will do, and what I will focus on. Not talking b.s. around it.\n\nIf it came off as if I am in this for money—you either misread it—or I failed to articulate it properly. I got into this because I had been taking Nootropics for over two years, and really feel passionate about letting the world know about them.\n\nI mentioned time and time again, after 4 years, I've not made a cent and still love doing it. I want to make that clear :-)\n\nIvan Teong Hrishi Olickel Thanks for your comments too guys. However, I'm going to have to completely disagree with you both here.\n\nSure, if I wanted to be an employee my whole life, this would be a bad move. But I am a founder, and it's what I will always strive toward being.\n\nStaying quiet, and not exposing these kinds of people makes you weak, and it's in no way commendable. It's cowardly.\n\nBecause think of how many more lives they're going to affect negatively if they continue? I don't want others to have to go through what I did.\n\nJulian Assange, Edward Snowden and Aaron Swartz all gave themselves a \"bad name\" to many. To others, they are heroes, because they did the right thing, and pointed out the corruption that is occurring.\n\nIt's a necessary evil—having to expose people by name—for the greater good. I 1,000% stand behind it, as I believe in transparency, doing the right thing by others, and not encouraging greed and corruption.\n\nIf you think I am wrong by doing that, then you're free to :-)",
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            "message": "Would you want to work with someone who will potentially tell everyone what you did at the company? Be careful you might get into legal trouble here for spilling the beans too.",
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            "message": "Ivan Teong Absolutely! If I was fucking clients over, fucking my staff over, doing shady things, and capitalising off of it all for selfish reasons, then I deserve to be called out.\n\nPeople sit by and let people get away with all this stuff, because they're too afraid of what might happen if they post about it.\n\nLet them try. I do not care. I simply care about doing the right thing, not doing what is PC, or will keep me out of trouble.",
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            "message": "Look, you may think you are a hero, but it doesn't benefit you in any way. Take all this as experience, move on and apply what you learnt in your next venture. The smartest people who always get what they want never let others know what is going on in their minds - I'm learning that and I think you should too.",
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            "message": "I don't think I am a hero at all. I don't want to be a hero. I want to focus on my startup.\n\nI honestly cannot believe that people are so resistant to literally telling the truth, and doing the right thing? How can you logically justify that, seriously? Tell me EXACTLY what your rationale is, other than potentially ruining ones reputation and \"damaging their image\". Go ahead, I am all ears Ivan Teong",
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            "message": "If you want to focus on your startup, do something productive and focus on your startup rather than ruining your profile in the startup world with a one-sided story. Nobody wants to hear how ill-treated you are or how bad others are, they only want to know what good things you learnt which can help them at their startups.",
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            "message": "Gabriel this is nothing to do with Chinese or not. Dont be silly and keep your racist comments to yourself.",
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            "message": "How wise. So one person's word is the truth. Enough said.",
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            "message": "Ivan Teong You're completely wrong! People do want to hear it. There would not be fucking riots and protests if people did not want to hear this stuff.\n\nSure it's currently one-sides, but it's an open platform, so they can feel free to comment and share their views. I welcome it! After all, I am about transparency.\n\nThe fact that you would keep quite, and say nothing Ivan goes to show that you're part of the 99% who will sit in a corner and cower, and let others walk all over them.\n\nAgain, you keep talking of this \"professional and startup reputation\". If others in the community despise this, then I do not care at all. I am doing me. I am talking the truth. I am doing what is right.\n\nYou still have not presented** a single valid reason other than reputation to not do this.",
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            "message": "And we resort to vulgarities when we cannot stand up for ourselves. Interesting.",
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            "message": "Btw you are very \"well travelled\". Just because I'm chinese doesnt mean im from china. There is something called immigration.",
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            "message": "Gabriel Laddel Yeah here's a recent highlight from European culture http://www.amazon.com/Second-World-War-Complete-History/dp/0805076239/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1451144362&sr=1-3&keywords=world+war+2+history",
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            "message": "John, reputation is everything. Having a good reputation means that others will be willing to trust and work with you. Having a bad one means that they'll skip over to the next \"big idea\". Sorry, but in the wide focus of things, good reputation is one of the best things you can have.",
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            "message": "The point is, that if you think this is the kind of thing that will give me a bad reputation, you're mistaking. Well, somewhat. I WANT it to give me a bad reputation amongst the people who would not like this, as they're the types I'd never do business with myself, as our values do not align.\n\nThis acts as a filter.\n\nOther people in the game, who highly value doing things right by others, transparency and openness should not see this as negative.\n\nSo it's not actually a factor for me in terms of reputation loss, more of a benefit, as it will mean avoiding corrupt people.\n\nI hope that makes sense... :-)",
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            "message": "What you did was unprofessional at best, so if you're seeking unprofessional people as well, be my guest. You won't find yourself getting anywhere with a superiority complex and a bad attitude.",
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            "message": "A worse attitude is being a coward and letting corrupt people continue doing what they do. THAT is unprofessional, as you're literally letting other people that will work with them in the future fall into the trap, which is utterly selfish.\n\nDon't convince yourself that being PC is professional. Maybe to your and many others standards—but think about it logically—it's not the case",
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            "message": "It's not being \"PC\" it's respecting people. Treating people with respect, even those you disagree with, will never hurt you.",
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            "message": "I am all for treating people with respect! But those who treat me with none will get none in return. That's fair, as it's a proportionate amount of returned-respect. Don't you agree?",
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            "message": "No, I don't, actually. Publishing private conversations, most likely without the consent of the other party/parties, is immoral and juvenile. You could easily have used this article to talk about valuable lessons you had learned through this experience rather than agressively attacking and slandering others /by name/. It's a very callow way of handling this situation, don't you agree?",
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            "message": "Sure the private conversation thing is a catch-22, of course I'll admit that's a moral dilemma. Like Snowden being prosecuted for exposing illegal activities from the NSA. Sure, it's illegal for him to publicly share classified documents, but it's also illegal for the company in question to be doing those sorts of activities.\n\nIMO, if you break *technicalities* in order to serve a greater good, you're providing a lot more value to others than you otherwise would have. If I did not do this, I'd be the only one  walking away with lessons-learned. \n\nWhat if I could prevent tens, or hundreds of people from wasting time they can't get back, by avoiding these people in the first place? That's significantly more valuable. The regard you're presenting it in is selfish.\n\nIn these two examples anyway. This OFC does not apply to every situation.\n\nSo to be very clear, forget about b.s. technicalities. Stop basing your argument on a fallacy / technicality, because when you REALLY get down to it (in this case, let's just stick to), it's more morally correct to expose these harmful people  (while immorally showing private messages), than it is to leave it be.\n\nThat's how I see it anyway. You cannot be 100% correct. But, you can most certainly be MORE correct by making one decision over the other.",
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            "message": "No, you're acting like you've got some moral authority for posting these conversations to meet your own selfish ends of \"exposing\" those you think did you wrong. Don't try to act like you have the high ground here. What you did was immature and reprehensible, as pretty much all of the other people on this post have pointed out.",
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            "message": "Yeah apart from the one other person who was an actual founder who knows what they're talking about. You're not even responding with any logic, only repeating what you said earlier, which was a false argument.\n\nHow the fuck do you conclude this is for my \"selfish ends\" anyway? Literally the WHOLE point of this is so that other people (future employees, clients, business associated etc.) avoid the same situation.\n\nThe post being public in and of itself PROVES that. If this were selfish, I would have kept it all to myself, and moved on. Just to help myself. That is painfully obvious. If you don't realise that, there's not point continuing to debate here.\n\nBut if you do acknowledge that I am doing this for reasons other than selfish ones, give me last comment a proper response, as you did not do so above.",
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            "message": "I don't though. You doing it to attack people for doing you wrong, while simultaneously trying to explain away where you did wrong, both in your article and here.",
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            "message": "I very openly admitted my many shortfalls, comprehensively, in that post. If there's not a proportionate amount of mentions in regards to where I did wrong, then I'd be more than happy to add more (though, I think the current amount is sufficient). I fucked up a ton, I really want that to be clear.\n\nI can't argue that it's a doubled-edged sword, but it's not binary, whereby it's either completely right, or completely wrong, which is how everyone looks at these situations.\n\nNo hard feelings here also Jen Platt, it's good being taken to this point. As I too should be held to the same standards, and called out. Otherwise, I'm no better.",
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            "message": "I didn't write it to be politically or grammatically correct, I wrote it to tell the truth :-) Well aware I'm no grammar master",
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            "message": "John Mitchell I'm just having some fun :) I appreciate your honesty in this article",
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            "message": "those are essentially gramerically correct. I know what you mean though hypens always make me doubletake which is good in some ways",
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        "message": "This is what happens when you take the entrepreneurial road with no proper leadership or teamwork training.\nThere is an old saying: “You wash your dirty laundry at home”. Now I understand you might be frustrated, every entrepreneur go through their own tough times and other bullsh*t. Like someone already commented, it is best to learn your lesson, and move on. Failing a few times is not a sin if you manage to get back, try hard till you succeed. You should expect to deal and meet all kind of people. This is not a perfect world. The fact that you copy private conversations with names and stuff on an article with no clear point prove that you are not ready for the business world. You may be a great programmer, but not business savvy at all. Take it from someone with a degree in international business, heavy training courses in Entrepreneurship, management etc. before I became a Computer Science related major. This speaks poorly of your personality, management skill and ability to work with people. I would not work with you either. If you are wise, and just realize you were either very angry or under the influence when you wrote that crap, swallow your pride and delete it. You will thank me later. This is my one (1) comment. I won’t make this an endless senseless conversation. I got other important things to do. Happy Holidays!",
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            "message": "Hey Marie thanks for the comment! As always, feedback like this is good :-)\n\nYour \"qualifications\" mean nothing to me, and gives your comment no extra weight either. You must not have properly read a significant amount of the post—because if you did—a lot of what you mentioned would not have been written (as it's not applicable).\n\nThere's been 100s of other failures I've experienced over the last 4 years. In both 2013 and 2014 I posted reviews (you can see them on my Medium). They did not call anyone out, and they were purely reflections.\n\nI don't know what your definition of \"ready\" is, but I've been in this game, and played significant roles for 4 years now. It's not a fact of being \"ready\", it's a fact of stepping the fuck up, failing, trying again, failing, trying again, and persisting** on until something good comes out of it. You're making a lot of assumptions.\n\nThis time it's different, because these are not just failures in and of themselves. They're bigger. They're working with others in the space who have extremely bad intentions. I disagree with being a cowardly bystander and letting them go unnoticed. I want people to see them for who they really are, so that they can avoid them to begin with.\n\nIt's not about pride. It's about doing what is right, and calling people out when necessary. If I were treating everyone at our company poorly, I WANT people to call me out on it, so that I can adjust my attitude, improve how I treat others, and do a better job in general.\n\nNo hate by the way—your feedback is really welcomed—as getting a range of perspectives from people helps me to learn, so thanks for taking the time to do so :-)",
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        "message": "Hey John, can I ask you a couple of questions in PM? Thanks",
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        "message": "FYI to everyone, I've made it very clear to the people mention that they can feel-free to (honestly) respond to this. I welcome it, as no one should just believe me by default: http://b3.ms/YxpM1gm7AgK3\n\nI want to point that out, as I by no means have spun this post.\n\nEdit:** This comment can be found at the bottom of the post :-)",
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        "message": "If there's anything I've taken away from this article and comment section, it's that I would never want to work at a startup that John Mitchell is involved in.  It's blatantly obviously that he can't take constructive criticism, seeing as how he is resorting to swearing and angrily attacking others when they tell the truth (the truth being the article is inappropriate).  Professionalism, respect, and character in the workplace will take you far, learn this.",
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            "message": "Cole, thanks for the comment!\n\nThat's your call. If you'd never want to work with me, then obviously our values do not align. Which means I'd never want to work with you, as it would not be a good fit...\n\nI've been responding to all of the comments, and replying as rationally as I can. If you REALLY think I cannot take constructive criticise, please point out exactly how I can't take it, and I'll change my approach here. As I don't want to be that guy, truly.\n\nIt's inappropriate to some, not others. Just a question (not an attack :-) ) have you personally gone through this experience, or founded a company of your own?\n\nI respect people when I am respected, and if you jump on my Facebook page and see the comments from colleagues (all of whom I have a professional relationship with), you'll see that I am fine in that regard.\n\nAnyway, keen to hear your thoughts man! I'm not here to attack people.",
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