8c11b6260d176da64b8c24ac006e0066606fe170 (2024-02-16) - Mark Kulacz ｜ Session 194： The Hour of Truth [Corona Investigative Committee].vtt

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I'm excited to see you, Mark Kulacz is with us, he is a market intelligence analyst and

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IT specialist, but he has used all these qualities for investigating what's been going on in

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the last three and a half years, almost four years now, and even longer, because you also

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took a look into the past. So maybe could you introduce yourself a bit further so our audience

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knows who you are. And by the way, you work closely with Jonathan Kui, who we had with us

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in another session and who had very interesting things to tell.

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Thank you for very much for having me on, having me on as the audio satisfactory.

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Yes, it's very, it's very good. Very good. Thank you. So an introduction, my name is Mark

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Kulacz. It's actually a Polish name. But within the United States, as name is shipped around so

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much, I'm actually more German, not Polish at all. So unfortunately, I wish I could

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converse with the audience here in German. But I've let some of my forefathers down by not

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having German in my back pocket in my suite of languages. But I worked in the how to say the

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computer industry, the big tech industry for about 22 to 23 years. I have a degree in computer

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engineering. And I worked predominantly in digital data storage for very large companies back

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Dell computer systems, EMC, which Dell acquired NetApp. And and several others. And I moved in my

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career as an engineer towards, towards eventually working as a technical trainer. And then as a

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sales engineer, and then eventually in product marketing and something called competitive

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intelligence, which sounds like it's a spy agency. But in reality, it's just understanding what

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a company's competitors are doing, and then helping develop sales literature and maybe make, you

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know, product roadmap decisions upon that. Having been an engineer, I tended to approach things

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in a pretty technical angle. So I live in the United States, so you can tell I'm a lifelong

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American. I live near between New York City and Boston, up in that northeastern part of the

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United States. And I've never really been someone who was very politically active or, you know,

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digging in on the issues of the day, if you will. But over the last 10 years, you know, my family

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as fortune would have it, had an encounter with drug addiction, which is a very big issue in the

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United States, and something I will talk more about throughout our show here, as well as

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something called Lyme disease or tick or arthropod born diseases, which are also very much on the

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rise in the United States. And my wife had some Lyme disease, which was chronic in the doctors. This

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is several years ago right now, eight, 10 years ago, simply did not want to acknowledge that her

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condition was real. So we had to find a doctor that would make, you know, antibiotics and other,

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how would you say, just come up with a strategy to help deal with that. So these things took me

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from someone who was sort of mining in those business, man, you know, doing the family thing

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and the career thing to why are these challenges being unaddressed? Why are they not even spoken

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about? And then I started to do more online research in my spare time. One thing led to the

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next, and it became to the point where I couldn't ethically continue my job anymore, because I was

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just spending so much time doing this online research. And I decided to do it full time in 2019. And

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then the pandemic happens. So I don't come at this. I'm, I'm very comfortable. I just don't think

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there's any value in trying to pretend to be something I'm not I'm not a molecular biologist. I'm

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not an immunologist. I was the lead competitive intelligence analyst for Dell Corporation for

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reverse engineering data storage systems that cost a million dollars or more. So I am from the

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corporate world, and I am very disciplined and regimented in my work. But that's what led me here.

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And yes, Jonathan Cooey who several it's amazing. I've been dealing with this. And you might have

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seen this as well. All of these, this whole area, this, this arena of combat of different influencers

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and ideas, and smaller parts of the story and narrative control. And it's taken me, I will

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years to really understand how all of this works. I was very naive early in the pandemic. I would

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even say that early in the pandemic, I was quite taken and fooled into participating in the wrong

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argument. And that was how to say promoting the idea of, Oh, there must have been a laboratory

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really, there must have been a gain of function element to this. And although there's no reason to

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discount anything, I've come to the realization that that's the wrong argument to have. And I was

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tricked into it. Perhaps I was predisposed because of my own personal experiences. But anyways,

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I have several topics I can address. And I, of course, I can happy to do a Q&A. But that's my

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background. Yeah, so the question is, would you like to give us like an overview of what you

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think that this pandemic has been about? And what's what has led up to it? I don't know if this is

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what you would like to do. I mean, with regards to these, these drug addiction, I don't know,

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maybe you are addressing the dystopian scandals also, because that is that is really quite,

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quite interesting that it was like in hidden in a painkiller, basically. And a lot of people got

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addicted to that. And actually, I, you know, I had a personal experience because a friend of mine,

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they were they had moved to America. And the husband of my friend went to the dentist. And after he

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had, I think they took out a tooth or so. And then he got this painkiller. And then the person said

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to him, the doctor, yeah, if you have pain, if you suffer from pain later on, just take it,

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no problem. It's an, you know, an easy product or something like that. And luckily, he didn't take

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it. Because later on, he looked at it and it turned out to be this like super highly addictive,

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herring kind of style product that maybe would have changed this is all path in life. Yeah,

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it's super dangerous. And it's very strange that this product has been admitted to the market at all.

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And then it was also, I think, even allowed, it got some some, you know, it was I think it's

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also applicable to to children now. Or was that some point?

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Well, thank you for sharing that experience. That is actually a very common route of painkiller

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addiction. First off, let me just clarify. And I think most people know this, but somehow we

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forget about it because of all the pollution from the media. Nobody wants to be a drug addict.

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Nobody, although I know Hollywood sometimes make it looks, you know, kind of rebellious and cool.

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Nobody wants to wind up living on a street, unable to support themselves and doing horrible things

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in order to support their habit. So there is, there's this misunderstanding. It's a result of

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laziness or or hedonism or something. It just isn't. Okay. And although there are an abundance of

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videos available, some cities of the United States of drug of drug addicts, all of those people are

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someone else's children. As as horrifying as their appearance may have become, and even the parents

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would agree, they're all kids from someone else anyways. So this is, it sounds like it's

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like a different topic. Okay. But if I may, I'll talk about the history of this a little bit.

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It's totally relevant, the history of course. But before we get into addressing that, why is it

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so specifically relevant to COVID? Well, every nation has had a different experience in the pandemic.

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In the United States, it has been said oftentimes that we've had approximately one million excess

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deaths. Excess death is a very complicated number. It means more people died than were

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projected to die. It doesn't mean more people died in the previous year. And then of course,

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well, how do you come up with that projection? Because if the projection is accurate enough,

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there will never be excess mortality. So it's a, it's a, it's a difficult measure.

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Nonetheless, more people did die quite a few over the last four or five years, four years at least.

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And in the United States, the total number of deaths from 2019 to 2023 of a drug overdose,

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and most of these were opioids or painkillers, was is over 500,000 right now, it's over half a

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million, which is a very big number for a country of 330 million people. In fact, for the year 2023,

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one out of every 30 people who died, period was a drug overdose, all ages, all reasons,

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yet it will not get the appropriate media attention. Now, there's always going to be reasons

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drug overdoses, accidents, there's so many causes. But to get a historical perspective,

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in the year 2000, the number of people that were dying in the United States per year of a drug

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overdose was about 22,000. Last year, it was 113,000.

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How is that possibly not something taken into account with respect to the excess number of

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people dying? And most of those people are under the age of 45. So it has an enormous impact on

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life expectancy calculations. And in the United States, it has been highlighted that life expectancy

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has been going down dot, dot, dot, because of the pandemic. However, most of the people who promote

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the or highlight how bad the pandemic was, whether it's from a cave or from a laboratory

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refused to mention this. Now, I was already predisposed to thinking about this several years ago, because

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of matter of fact, I myself became addicted at one point after I had a back operation.

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Fortunately, I did not turn into a long term thing. And then in 2022, we lost our son to a drug overdose

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in April. So the two year anniversary is coming up. And right now, my wife and I, we are full-time

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grandparents were raising our granddaughter. That was only five months old at the time that he died.

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So this is happening. This is, this is, I know this word is overused these days, but this is

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truly an epidemic. There are massive Facebook groups of thousands of grandparents right now

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raising multiple kids. And no one talks about this because because it would take, it would change

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how people think of the data of the pandemic. Perhaps many people have heard that in the United

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States, starting in 2020, there were a multitude of deaths which were reclassified as being COVID.

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So if someone, an elderly person dies of the flu, it's unfortunate as it is, we all wind up there.

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Hopefully at a very big number. But those deaths which were

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happen every year, because people reach the end of their life. Some of those were reclassified

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as having been COVID deaths. Now I disagree with that strategy, but that's what was done.

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Calling one type of death, another type of death does not, in and of itself, cause any excess deaths.

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You can call shark attacks, people falling off of ladders and car accidents COVID deaths.

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That doesn't actually itself kill anyone. So in the United States, as all of these other causes of

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death, were called COVID, we had more people dying. And the very, very simple analysis,

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which we are told to accept is that because more people died and because we've had more COVID deaths,

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therefore all the COVID deaths must be new and excess deaths. And that's it.

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And Jonathan Couey does a fantastic job. I'm so thankful he brings this up. When we had all of

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these excess people dying of drug overdoses, well, where did that fit in? If you look back,

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if you use the 2000 number, and if you have, let's just say 300,000 excess deaths from drug

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overdoses, how is that not factored in? And the point is that they don't want you to factor that

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in, whether it be Anthony Fauci or the World Health Organization, or the so-called truth and expose

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whatever movement, the medical movement, they will not allow you, at least with the US, they

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mention this because it will change how you view this. So we have undoubtedly had an excess

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number of people dying. We've undoubtedly have had more younger people dying. These are unquestionable,

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but why? Now note, I made no statement that there's no pandemic. It is impossible for me to ever

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prove that there isn't a leaf or rock somewhere that's hiding the SARS-CoV virus. It's impossible to

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ever make a statement that nobody died of a new virus. So I don't entertain that.

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What I do say, though, is that when looking at all of the new reasons why people have died,

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including a massive surge in drug overdose deaths, of course, hospital protocols, denying people

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access to antibiotics because they had a viral pneumonia, viral, whatever, have all killed excess

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people. And when you factor all of these things out, you're just not left with a million people

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that could have possibly died of COVID. So why is the entire conversation about is there COVID or

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not? It's the wrong argument to have. Historically, and I'll just go down the historical path a

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little bit, and then we can see where we are.

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Sometime in the late 1990s, synthetic opioids were introduced to the market of the United States

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by a company called Purdue Pharma. And I mean, painkillers have been around forever.

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They are a wonderful tool. Imagine how many people have had horrible injuries,

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unfortunately from war, car accidents or whatever, that surgeries have been able because of painkillers,

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morphine and heroin, so on, are wonderful tools. They have a place they're not evil. They can be

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misused. The natural medicines, although addictive, are not nearly as addictive as the synthetic,

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the heavily processed ones and things like OxyContin are extraordinarily addictive.

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I don't care how strong your faith is. It is they cause chemical damage to your system

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that will make you simply want more of them. And although they can be used responsibly,

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they need to be respected. Just like using a sushi knife, you can't just

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slice and things up in your kitchen. You have to respect that blade. It's not the blade in

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of itself, though, it's bad. Anyways, so the number of prescriptions and uses of these drugs

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have just gone up and up and up. And starting around 1999, 2000, and very slowly, the number of

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people who are dying of drug overdoses crept from 20,000 a year, in the year 2000, all the way up

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to 113,000 are record year in 2023. These has an enormous impact on life expectancy.

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Of course, it's going to have a major impact in demographics of the United States.

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And I believe this data has been misused to fuel, as part, in part, the pandemic narrative.

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And although it seems how could they possibly be related? These things seem different. Maybe

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it's just a coincidence. Okay, I will offer you this. The Purdue pharma, which is recently no

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longer open. Other companies are making those drugs, so they've been sued. The family that

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created that was a family called the Sackler family, S-A-C-K L-E-R. And you can read a lot

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about the Sackler family. When the patriarch of that family died, Raymond Sackler,

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if you look at the people who were his best friends and speaking at the funeral, one of them was,

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first one was Joshua Lederberg, who was perhaps America's foremost person with respect to history

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on the development of biological weapons. He coined the phrase microbiome and emerging

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diseases, Joshua Lederberg did. He passed in 2007 to 2008, I think. And the other one was a

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Dr. Phil Sharp of MIT, who stars student Melissa Moore as the Chief Science Officer of Moderna.

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So I openly speculate about the possibility that some of this transition to synthetic opioids,

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an engineered epidemic, epidemic of killing people with drugs, was perhaps allowed because

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to transition to this new era of genomics, big data analytics, gene therapy, and so on,

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there needed to be a pandemic. And if you listen to the scientist talk that the greatest accomplishment

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since the wheel has been gene therapy, why wouldn't they consider the possibility of killing a few

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hundred thousand people to create the data for a pandemic to get us there? I have no trouble

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doing that. So I've just tied several things together. I don't have proof, but I'm the fact

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that there is this unwillingness, even in the truth movement, to talk about this, I think is

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evidence that it is relevant. It is relevant. But I think it's evidence that there's multiple

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parties involved in hiding the role and impact of this drug epidemic in the United States.

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Can I ask you, the way this drug is structured, could it be also produced in a way so that it's

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not that addictive, but still has the same results, that it really takes away your pain and so on.

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But this seems to go further. It's not only pain killing, but as you said, it makes you

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agree for more. But has anyone ever looked at the structure of this specific drug,

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so that it creates this need to have more of it?

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Well, long-term opioid use of any type, natural or not, is definitely going to

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lead to a less effective economy at the very least. However, history has shown that the,

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for example, the morphine and heroin used in previous wars, World War II, Vietnam,

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well, it definitely led to addictions. Many troops, many US servicemen who went to Vietnam War,

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who had trouble with heroin addictions coming back, were able to quit.

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The success rate of quitting addiction to these synthetics is very different.

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I can't chemically describe it, but from what I've been able to study about addiction overall,

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is that these neurological pathways, believe it or not, are actually very similar

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across a wide variety of addictions, whether it be pornography or gambling or even opioids.

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Once the brain no longer develops this pathway of illogically going back and producing the same

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behavior, even though it has no beneficial results whatsoever, it's interesting. It's like what

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are finding a way through a dam, no matter how much caulking you put into the hole,

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the water just keeps wanting to go through it. These synthetic opioids just burst open these

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paths, and it's very, very difficult to get back. What tends to happen is that the things like

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oxycontin are highly addictive, but eventually, as the addiction gets worse, people want more.

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There are more and more powerful versions of these opiates. One is called fentanyl. I'm sure you've

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heard of it, which is extremely powerful and also very little is required to cause a fatal overdose.

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Another one is called Carfentanil, which is even more powerful. That's actually used as a

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tranquilizer for elephants. This stuff is relatively abundantly available. It's used in hospice.

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It is used by veterinarians or animals, so it's not as if it's impossible to find. I know

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it's often mischaracterized in the United States as a foreign, as an international border issue.

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While that is an element of it, you'd be surprised to find that many families that have direct

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interactions with this stuff and knowledge will actually encourage people to not think about it

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solely as a border issue. For adults or for anyone who becomes addicted, if you,

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since it's very difficult to get actual oxycontin after your prescription runs out,

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what will happen is you can find the even more concentrated stuff available,

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usually very inexpensively on the street, outside of a doctor for less and less money.

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Another issue is that this fentanyl, because it's relatively cheap and abundant,

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there are parties within the United States that have produced artificial prescription pills,

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such as Xanax or other things which people would prescribe for other neurological conditions,

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et cetera, depression. They will make these things in their garage with a very simple

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press with the powders, they'll press it in, and then these bags of pills will pop up,

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and sometimes kids will do something stupid to go to a party. They go, oh, here's this type of pill.

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I saw this on a movie somewhere. Let's take a few and be stupid kids, and there have actually

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been overdoses of children in the United States that weren't addicts at all. They simply didn't,

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I mean, kids do stupid things, right? Unfortunately, I never quite did that as a kid. I did other

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stupid things though, but these risks exist, and although I am not the person who's going to give

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you the solutions to this stuff, I know that the very first part of any solution is public awareness,

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public acknowledgement of how big the role is, public acknowledgement of how this stuff finds

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its way to people, acknowledgement of how severe and quick the addictions can start as little as

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two to three days of use of some of these prescriptions, and that's the very first step. Long-term,

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it's very complicated. I know there's weaker families within the United States. There's all

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these other chemicals which are being bombarded with, and I'm not saying that it's someone else's

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problem. We actually, it's all of our problems in a way, but nothing changes without the very

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least recognition of the threat. And again, I believe that public discussion of this is being

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discouraged because it dares to impact the interpretation of the data that is being seen

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regarding the COVID-19 pandemic. I think it is a big part of it, not all of it,

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but in this, how are you saying, a component that cannot be ignored responsibly?

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And do you know what I find interesting? I mean, here you see the same pattern as with the

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the vaccine, so-called vaccination. You have a basically a very dangerous product in the market,

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and instead of taking it off the market once the issues occurs, because that cannot be

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happening behind the doors or invisible to decision-makers in the US, like the FDA or something,

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you know, other entities who could like cry out and say, hey, we have a major problem. And instead,

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they're not pointing, as you said, to the oranges of the problem. And with corona, we have the same

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thing. So it's a treatment with results that are becoming more and more obvious as being

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dangerous, and it's not taking off the market. It's the same thing. Instead, it's maybe like,

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I mean, it's now even rolled out to serve kids. I mean, you know, that's the opposite of what

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you'd expect of like a responsible decision-maker in this kind of, in this very important field

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of health, like to the population. I completely agree. It is possible that there could be great

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benefits in the future to some of these new medical technologies. I don't discount that.

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I encourage the research and development and the exploration. And if people want to

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sign up for trials, by all means, as long as the right risk profile is shared with them.

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However, in this case, if a proper analysis was done considering hospital protocols,

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considering other ongoing concurrent epidemics, such as the drug epidemic, there would not have

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been a condition to facilitate the rollout of these new pharmaceuticals in the first place.

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So while discussion of their danger is absolutely warranted,

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it is appropriate to ask that they really serve any benefit in the first place.

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And I would suggest that the answer is no. So you can't make something safe

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if it doesn't solve anything in the first place. So why doesn't the discussion just stop right

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there as opposed to, well, there seems to be more myocarditis or whatever. I don't know. I haven't

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done the full breakdown of the vaccine. I'm thankful for the people who have. But I would just look

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at the base data. And again, why is it openly, people are openly allowed to say,

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oh, this vaccine is out there to kill people. Oh, this vaccine is out there to do this, to do that,

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whatever. No discussion is allowed of protocols or other ongoing epidemics.

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Well, I've come, can I ask you these drugs that Mark mentioned, are these also available in

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Germany, because or like in Europe, because we do, I mean, I'm not really, I don't know. But like,

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I had assumed that this is not, you know, as an sort of drug epidemic,

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as you know, here, compared to the US.

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You know, it's a great point. It varies nation to nation by a

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variety, due to a variety of things. There are nations that actually have it worse than the

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United States. I've heard this. I verified it last night coincidentally. Pakistan is actually

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amongst the worst countries in the world. Now, I know that's a shocking number for some reason

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where we are predisposed to thinking that Islamic nations perhaps that lower drug use.

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Pakistan has, I think, 700 people dying a day of a drug overdose 700. I think their population

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is 140 million. Someone can check that. It's up there. But 700 a day. That's that means in,

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like in two weeks, they've had more deaths from that than Ebola in Africa in the last 10 years.

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So why does that get no attention? Now, of course, again, because of a variety of social

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challenges that Pakistan has, perhaps they have a large population of males that just don't feel

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so they have much of a future. I don't know. I'm not the person to comment on that. But there are

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other countries that have very, very, very low drug use. Is it now? Is it a difference because of

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pharmaceutical controls? Is it culture? Is it age? I don't know why that is. Canada, in some areas of

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Canada, the number of drug overdose deaths per day is almost as high as it is in the United States.

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And some other areas of Canada, it's very low. Perhaps it'll be alcohol or something else.

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I can't quite describe all of that. And one thing I've noticed, perhaps you've seen this as well.

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Right? I know Germany has its unique characteristics of what has gone on during the pandemic and

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all the things. I'm not even going to list right now. But as an American,

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put forward the challenges of my country and how I see it. I am oftentimes said, well, hold on,

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hold on. Portugal had this problem over here. So how can you overlook it?

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I can barely get people in my own country to understand the challenges in my own country.

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I'm not in a position to go over the challenges in the other 199 nations on the planet. And I know

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that they're there. But what I've seen is for as an American to overlook challenges in my country

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based upon how things perhaps have gone in other nations. And again, I appreciate people wanting

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to look at a bigger picture. But I don't know. I mean, Portugal, for example, there is a narrative

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that Portugal had a high number of COVID deaths. A lot of people show up at the hospital in this

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and that and maybe I can't disprove that or prove it. But what I do know is that until the most

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important problems right in front of me in my own country are solved, I can't change how I attack

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the list of priorities because of what happened in that one hospital in Portugal.

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So I'm not trying to be rude about it. But I think people really just need to sometimes just

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look at the data right in front of them and act accordingly, supposed to being told what they

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shouldn't should not focus on by everything else nor. But yes, there are other countries that have

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it worse. And I think there's a variety of conditions that have led into that.

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Wolfgang, you know about the German situation.

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I was sorry. I just, you know, I'm asking him. I guess you know him.

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By the way, thank you. It's an honor to be on a webcast with you. Thank you for all the work

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you've done and for being an early voice standing up. It took several of us a while to get to the

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same point because we were all predisposed to thinking different things, right? But I'm so

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thankful for the work you did. And thank you for still being in this fight with us.

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You know, the comparing the states how they handle the drugs is very interesting. I think

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I did not do it very thoroughly. But I know that in Germany, we have a very restrictive law

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that several drugs which are which make addictions that they are regulated in a special way that

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doctors have to use special prescription formulas to prescribe them. And they are each formulas

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registered. And so it's easy to control which doctor does it. When I was in the public health

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office, there was there was some doctors who were just doing it, you nevertheless. And they were

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attracting drug addicts by giving them very often those. But you can just go into the pharmacy. And

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when you see, you draw, see the drawer where the drugs are. And you see the recipes all come from

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one doctor. And you go to the doctor and have a talk with him. You know, and you can stop this.

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So it's not so in Germany, it's easier to control. There is a black market for sure. And there are

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sold which are which are smuggled and whatever. And there are falsified drugs everywhere in there.

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They mix something and they say sell it very toxic stuff sometimes. But I think there are not,

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there's not such a problem as it is in US. But I wanted to comment on another thing that

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if there is in some hospital in Portugal, or if there is only in New York, suddenly such an amount

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of people dying in April 2020 or so. Or when there is in North Italy, suddenly,

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a spot where so many people die in in San Francisco, you see nothing. If there's nothing like that,

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this cannot be a pandemic virus. This is very sure if there is really a pandemic virus,

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which is spreading with all the airplanes with the spreading with all the traffic all over the

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world, then you would not see spots where people are killed like with Minazulam in England.

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You can see the prescription of this of this diatsipam of this tranquilizer. And in the same

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time, you see the people dying in hospitals at the same time, in the same amount. And again,

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a little bit less. And again, the prescription a little bit less. You see directly connection

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between the amount of drugs prescribed in hospitals and people dying in those hospitals.

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So and only in those hospitals. So, and it's I think it's a very, very, very hard data

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that shows it's not that I forget about viruses and look for the other reasons.

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And I'm glad you've mentioned New York City. Jessica Hockett, of course, I hope you have or

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will talk with her within the United States made an observation that there was a high number of

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within this month of April, 2020 in New York City, emergency medic or ambulance responses.

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And people who were considered to be classified as having died in their house,

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or were dead upon arrival. Hopefully I'm characterizing this right to a New York City hospital. Now,

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one change that New York City made. Wasn't in that month of April, 2020.

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Was I'm gonna say an order, but the very least a strong recommendation.

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To be careful who an emergency response person would would revive. Because of the possibility

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that reviving someone could spread the virus. Now, so there are several cases that Jessica

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Hockett has found where there was like a 33 year old who was dead in their apartment.

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And it's marked as a COVID death. Now, again, I can't look at every molecule that ever existed

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on a planet and say there's no such thing as a COVID molecule that causes someone to just die

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in their bed. However, the profile of that person looks like someone that may have been

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in the midst of a drug addiction. Perhaps they were in a case where they needed an emergency response.

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And they were not given whatever emergency therapy was needed to bring them back.

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Because of this emergency declaration and these special ways of handling it. So,

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now you have this, if you want to fuel the pandemic narrative, you have this wonderful data

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of 30 year olds just dying in their apartment. Oh, it's it's COVID. And this is enough again to

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create this cascade of well, it's must be even worse than we thought. Therefore, we need more

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lockdowns, more emergencies. Now we need more therapeutics and vaccines and so on. But what

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you said, again, I don't want to offload all responsibilities to doctors. Okay, there are

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communities with the United States that have had very low levels of drug addiction. They have very

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strong families, strong faith, etc. So it's not purely a doctor thing. However, and I think people

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need to be aware, right? If I think most people know you don't give a four year old keys to your car,

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right? There's just certain things you just know, because you can understand the risks.

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But people don't realize how serious the risks can be of the addictiveness of some of these

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painkillers, which have a role. But without people being involved or having the knowledge to act

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appropriately, these addictions are created. So I don't want the doctors to have that much power,

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but the same time, there are cases such as Germany, you see the addiction rates are much lower,

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perhaps because in this case, the the extra controls are warranted.

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Oh, it's a very it's a it's a big discussion to have. But again, this explains the differences

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between nations. It's very interesting. The WHO has made, has said there were many pandemics

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already, they had many pandemics, and they are preparing the nations now. They are

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if we're doing it for some years, or if for a certain new kind of pandemic,

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non diseases that cannot be transmitted to others. And how do they say non contaminating or non

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infectious, contagious, infectious and infectious? Yes. And they they,

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and they call it, and they they they prepare this, and they were defined with what new pandemic

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from NCDs will come. And I'm curious why they did not mention up to now, it is not a topic,

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this addiction. WHO doesn't speak about that, they speak about obesity, they speak about alcoholism,

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they speak about cigarettes, but they don't speak about those those drugs, those painkiller

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drugs. They didn't have it on their on their agenda, although it's a big elephant in the room.

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There are some scientists and policy advisors who will mention it. And

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are you familiar with the United States, the former director of our Centers of Disease Control,

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Dr. Redfield? Have you heard of that name before? Well, he was our former director of our CDC.

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He is he's been in this business for a long time. And I gave him a lot of credit for emphasizing

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many times last several years. He's no longer in the role that this was one of the greatest

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challenges of the United States. Okay. Now, of course, he was completely ignored by our main

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news sources. But Redfield, of course, when the pandemic started, he plays a lot, right, with it

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as well. I sometimes believe that there are officials who perhaps feel as though that if they

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participate a little in the show, right, that maybe by staying in the role, they can help

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steer attention towards other things. Maybe there may be there, it helps. Maybe,

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maybe dozens, I don't know, but there are officials that have stated this. But I'll tell you what,

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even if someone were to say it, it's ignored. Former US President Donald Trump has met several

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times with, let's just say, an association here in that I live near that supports families that

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have lost children to drug overdoses. And they found Trump to be extremely receptive to this.

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Trump tried several times to pass additional legislation and was completely incapable of.

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He was almost ridiculed for it. Now, the drug crisis got worse after the Trump administration.

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So I'm not saying that Trump was a successful president in this. If you just look at the data,

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he failed. All right. However, even his attempts to talk about it were ridiculed by mainstream

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media. And to this day, they're still completely overlooked. So in the WHO,

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I refuse to believe that everyone in the World Health Organization is a bad person.

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I'm sure that there are other individuals of the WHO. If you look at some of the

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throughout their website that highlight this, but ultimately their main message is filtered

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somewhere. And the message is just not allowed to talk about this. And it's a shame. There are

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health organization, their role should be to advocate health to raise awareness of health risks.

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Conceptually, it could be a good thing, but they only allow people to focus on one thing.

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And these vaccines have had this great discussion before. Perhaps they wouldn't have been pushed on

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people if people understand the whole profile of health risks. We want to

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research gene therapy, the treat cancers and tumors. That's fantastic. I support it. I'm an

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engineer. I support it. But this stuff is very experimental still. It's still just a speculation

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that it could ever work. But to just push it on the whole world by not allowing a full discussion

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of everything, everything from engineered food, drug addictions, societal ills, family breakdowns,

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all of this horrible stuff that's on the internet, et cetera, all of these things combined.

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It's irresponsible. It's unfortunate. And I'm trying to have an approach to this that I would

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inspire other people, as opposed to just having a pure conspiratorial approach to it. And I'm

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feeling positive as time goes on, that I think we've been turning a corner. I think we're having

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really good rational discussion about reflecting back on the pandemic now. Regarding what you just

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said, Doctor, about the next pandemic, disease X or whatever it is. Yes, I've heard it. And

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I've expected nothing less than another pandemic.

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Well, so what is your take? You mentioned the Lyme disease. So what's your take on that?

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To review Lyme disease, it's a very well known within North America, United States and Canada,

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and other countries. It is a immune system deficiency, which seems to be cause associated with

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anthropod, tick-borne illnesses. And it's named after a small town in the state of Connecticut,

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not too far from New York City called Lyme, old Lyme, Connecticut, where it was first discovered

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in the mid 1970s. It's very easy to trace the epidemiology of this to a animal infectious

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disease research facility called Plum Island, which is very, very close to there,

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which I believe most likely had an accidental release of some non-native tick species,

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which perhaps hosted some artificially injected bacterium. Now, early in the pandemic, I was

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tricked into thinking that that was the evidence that SARS was real and SARS was from a laboratory.

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It took me over a year to think more about that and realize that I was perhaps being misled.

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It's still not clear to me how much of that, although I know that that illness is real.

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They've seen these very, the illness itself is actually a type of bacterium called aspyracate,

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which is very corkscrewed and very much similar to syphilis in many ways. In fact, in the United

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States, there has been some research done and a very high percentage of people that have done

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autopsies that have died of things like Alzheimer's and other long-term neurological degeneration

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have had undiagnosed forms of syphilis, whether it be Lyme or something else.

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So I think it is real, but the question is, is how much of this is to blame on the bacterium

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how much of it is because we have weaker immune systems now than perhaps we did 20 years ago.

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And I didn't really factor that in at the beginning of the pandemic, but

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if these organisms, which have existed for a long time are real, I don't see how it's possible

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that North America could have been inhabited by Native American country, Native American,

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First Nation Americans for 10,000 years without all dying. So possibly combinations of our foods

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and childhood immunizations have weakened our immune system so that while Lyme disease is a

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challenge, it's not just Lyme disease. It actually speaks to our bigger weakening of our overall health.

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I think we have a new image as soon as we have some new possibility of diagnosis.

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There were ticks all the way in all forests everywhere.

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And there were people with rheumatism, they called it rheumatism, they got nervous diseases,

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but they didn't have a diagnosis. So maybe Borreliosis, how we call Lyme disease,

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Borreliosis, yes. It's a very ancient disease, but it was never diagnosed because we had no

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possibility to find it. Yes. We know bacteria that they are the reason for such diseases.

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We know for now 100 and I don't know 50, 70 years or so, it's not so long that we have the

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possibility to find those small bacteria. Now we know viruses, there's still more recent,

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it's even 100 years or so, the first time someone thought of viruses, and now they're trying those

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nuclei, those genetic, the molecule trying to find out the molecules, but they don't know

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all the things going on in nature with all those bacteria, viruses, and what else is there,

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which are all communicating, and which are there long before we thought of them. For sure, they

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are there for thousands of years, and you can find them in human beings, you find the traces

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in our genomes. We have contacts with all those microbiology. We were developed with them,

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and now suddenly there are people who have new instruments to find something very small,

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and they're very specialized on this, and they say, oh, I find something, and I'm making vaccine

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against this. It's so stupid, it's so narrow-minded. The way we look at that is so narrow-minded,

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and we should be much more calm with all those infectious diseases, because if it's an

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infectious disease, it comes from something which is there as long as human beings are there.

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In varieties, human beings change, viruses change, bacteria change, but this is a system

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which is communicating with the immune system. Several hundred years ago, it was the first

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term that people from the continent, Europe, went to other continents. It's not a long time

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for human history as human beings, and then there was all those contacts with the aeroplanes coming

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from China, coming from everywhere, mixing all the bacteria, mixing all the viruses globally,

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and we still live. There were new ones. There were hundreds of new ones we never had contact with,

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which only lived in some Indonesia or in the forest or somewhere, and suddenly we had tourists

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there, and we survived. Our immune system is able to get to know all this and to do something against

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it. We have such a great possibility, biologically, great possibility, to adapt to all those

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forms of life we meet. We need to be afraid of bacteria. They make us afraid because they want

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to give us injections, money, and you know that all those dangerous infectious diseases,

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they all disappeared after the World War II, but only in those countries who lived well,

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who had enough to eat, have good departments, and so there were no more infectious diseases.

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Suddenly they were going down exponentially, and the vaccines didn't do anything about it.

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They were just a very, very small margin of all this. You almost cannot see. So living

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well and don't killing each other and eating well and don't taking drugs and all this,

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we know, is a good thing, but we don't have to be afraid of microbes.

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Although some people die, but much, much less and less, and if people expose themselves,

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if you go into a chicken farm where there are 10,000 chickens crammed together and you,

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as a human being, go into them and the chicken, they have something, maybe you get ill too,

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because that's just a massive contact. Or if you're doing, you have a sexual life,

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which is very dangerous, where you meet people who have a serious disease that is

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transmittable, then you may get infected. Okay, but we know all this.

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So don't be afraid of,

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I'm not, well, I mean, in general, I think you're right, just that, and I'm not a doctor, but like,

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I know people who have been very ill, like with regards to like these symptoms

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of for a loser. And Mark, you mentioned your wife was also had these kind of issues. So I mean,

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there seems to be something, huh? Don't deny that people get ill from that. But you know, this,

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this has been before we know, knew that for a user's exist, people got ill too.

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I know, but do they have these kinds of symptoms? I don't know. I mean, it's just a question we

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would need to research a little bit. Or I mean, maybe you know more about it, but like, it seems to be

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like many of us have seen the impacts of perhaps in Germany, there are invasive weeds or trees

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that growing that are very, you know, you see them on the highway or near bridges. So clearly,

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when new species of plants or organisms are introduced to an area, it takes a while to read

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that, you know, to find that new equilibrium. With respect to Lyme disease, this is very well

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documented as a book by Kris Newby about this. There were non native forms of syphilis,

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physically being injected into ticks, which were also not native to the northeastern part of the

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United States. So these are like an invasive species. Okay, it's not native. But eventually,

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the environment will, you know, rediscover its equilibrium. Now, oftentimes, a treatment for

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Lyme disease is aggressive use of antibiotics, various supplements. And for the most part,

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most people can, you know, can, you know, remove these microorganisms from their body.

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It's a fair question, though, that perhaps if we had stronger immune systems, as we might have

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had 150 years ago, 200 years ago, that the body would be more capable of fighting these off.

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So there's so there's many elements to it. It is nonetheless, though, a real issue. I think many

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people could avoid it by just, you know, wearing your clothes a certain way when you go out into the

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woods. And I think many long term cases of it could be avoided if doctors were allowed to recognize

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that it's a real condition and maybe treat it initially, as opposed to saying someone's crazy

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for thinking it's a real problem and then letting it go. So, Wolfgang, if I, you bring up an excellent

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backstory here that this is actually an opportunity for me to share some of the, like, historical

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research that I've done that I'll bring into this. Within the United States, I think worldwide,

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in particular, within the United States, the events of World War I and the 1918 flu or the

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Spanish flu are oftentimes used as a reason to have any level of health policy response

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because it's always said that 50 million or 100 million people could die because of some new

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disease, some new bacterium, et cetera. Now, within the United States, there were approximately

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500,000 people that died in the year 1918 of what was identified as influenza. The US population

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at the time, I think, was about 140 million people. That's a lot of people to die in one year of

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influenza. And many of those people were definitely young, oftentimes 30, 35 years old, but almost all

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of them, but not maybe some family members as well, were in the military. World War I was a very

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unique time for military conflict. There were no helicopters and there were no army tanks in World

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War I. World War I involved animals, horses, mules, the United States transported almost one million

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animals across the Atlantic Ocean in World War I. In boats that had horrible ventilation conditions,

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these animals were malnourished, they were stressed, they were in a high humidity environment,

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and oftentimes they themselves were dying of a bacterial pneumonia that were in their lungs.

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When you factor in rail transport and boat transport, a high percentage of the US deaths were related

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to a really, really aggressive bacterial pneumonia that was highly correlated with US

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servicemen and the transport of animals in World War I. Germany and France, to some extent, also

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experienced this as well. The moment the war ended, the flu ended. So there was definitely a measurable

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tragedy that happened back then. The total number of deaths worldwide were not nearly as high as

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projected. In the US newspapers at the end of early 1919, it was stated that two English

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servicemen who were in India saw a lot of people, a lot of other troops also struggling with

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this pneumonia in 1918 in the port area. So they made a projection that the death rate of all of

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India was equal to the US and England. With no evidence other than two accounts based upon a

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port, which was also subject to the same conditions that we were seeing in the United States.

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And very quickly, potentially 1.5 million or 2 million deaths from this pneumonia were rounded

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up to being, well, it was probably 12 million worldwide. And then by 1950, well, it was probably

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20 million. The current encyclopedias will say it's probably 50 to 100 million. Now, the tragedy

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was real. It definitely impacted this population of people, but it has been completely mischaracterized

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and overhyped to justify this, oh my goodness, any day, something could happen with a vaccine

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or a Native American tribe or something and it can spread around the world. And only doctors can

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save you, only the scientists. That's it. It's an end times prophecy, if you will. And it's a

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ticket to do whatever, whenever. And I'm not saying that it was a hoax, but what I'm saying is that

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it was a real tragedy that has been completely mischaracterized and rewritten. And very few

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people are willing to to dig into this. All of this is documented. If you look at 1916, 1917

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newspaper articles, it was generally, there was this thing called the shipping flu. Whereas many

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is 25 to 30% of all animals that went on to a boat were dead by the time they got off of it

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because of the conditions that these animals were made to reside while in transport. This is

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being erased. And I think it's really important. I'm not saying to dig into history because you

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want to win a trivia game. I think it's really important for our own rights and so that we know

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how to properly view the direction of all the science is going to revisit and to properly

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capture this information in this history. Because it's being erased. And I think, well, as we can see,

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horrible things are happening because of what the erasure of this history is enabling. So I'm

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glad you brought that up, Dr.

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Mark, do you have a giant amount of topics that we could cover with

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you? And I find it very inspiring and very interesting. Would you say, is this, have we covered these

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two topics? I would maybe like to re invite you at some other time to maybe talk about some

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additional topic. Is there anything that you would like to share with us now in addition?

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Well, I again, thank you so much. I agree with what the doctor said. You have to look at overall

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health. It's I have a lot of days where I get very angry and crabby and frustrated. But it's

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important to stay optimistic, harboring too much anger or bitterness is also not good for our health.

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Although it does give it a little energy sometimes. It's not good for our health. I will say that

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and watch Jonathan Couey's last show. I think he did a great job covering this.

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In spite of what you've heard, aside from the people who are getting old and gray like me,

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you, people are still the world's most valuable asset.

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Not of course, it's because of the love that we bring and what we represent. But even from a

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scientific standpoint, there has been this, this greed that started, I think this, this is a little

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dark in World War two with a very large captive population of people that could have been used

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for a variety of medical experiments. There has been this increasing greed and desire to find

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ways to get more and more people effectively to be a captured audience without them knowing it.

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To help advance a very, very heavily funded genomics agenda. And it has often been said

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that, oh, there's just a plan to kill all the people on the planet, depopulation and so on.

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Well, I'm not saying that we are adored and wanted. The unfortunate reality is that this agenda,

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this genomics agenda, which potentially is about beating cancer and life extension,

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cannot advance without people. It cannot advance without people. They were hoping at some point

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that they could just solve everything with computers. No, you need people, you need data to collect

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in order to make it even possible, maybe someday to work. And I think that there is a desire to

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get us to think that somehow we're just all useless eaters and garbage. I'm not saying we're loved,

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but imagine if the population of the world realized, oh, my goodness, our bodies and our sovereignty

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are actually the most valuable resource on the planet. That really changes, I think, the dialogue

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into a way, which perhaps we can have properly discuss. If people want to accept medical risks

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to advance science, they can do it and they should receive proper compensation for this.

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So stay healthy, try to focus on the positives. We're going to get through this. It may take

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a long time to expose all of this. But what we all have and what our children have is,

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I still think the most valuable resource. And I think there's a great attempt out to get people

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to not talk about these things. And also to try to focus on the don't get baited,

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don't get tricked into having the wrong arguments. There's a desire to get all of us to focus

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completely on the existence of a particular molecule and what it can do. And it's impossible

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to discount that. But if we just look at the bigger picture, I would state almost all of the

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lives which were lost, could have been saved. If we weren't looking for it, this thing. So why

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shouldn't that be the kickoff of all the conversations? So again, there's a lot of other things,

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intellectual property law, it sounds boring. It's very relevant. We can get into all of that.

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And another one, I would love to do that. I'm sorry, it didn't have slides for you.

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I have a ton of content organized and so on. But consider this to be a representation of the fact

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that I have this life, which has also been impacted by these events. So thank you for this.

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Thank you very much for all the information you gave us and all the views you gave us.

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And I think if I should sum it up, what you said, I have the idea to say just don't get lost in

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molecules. Don't get lost in molecules. Mankind has not known much about molecules in genetics

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before. It's very recent. And the world has not become better with genetic knowledge.

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There has been a new way of discriminating people with their genes. Before they were

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discriminated because of the skin color of their sex and all this. But now you can discriminate

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people because of their genes. You can treat those with those genes different from those with

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other genes. And those ones who can analyze these genes, they can just characterize and they can

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just find the groups they want to discriminate. So if you have tests and if you have possibilities

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of biological analysis of human being, distinguish one from the other, you can discriminate them.

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And in all human rights, in all charters we have, there's always a charter against discrimination.

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All different, we are all different human beings. But we are all have different or have equal

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rights. And this is in every, in every law all over the world. This is the main thing that we are

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human beings with our dignity. But we are all different. We have different diseases. We have

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different ideas. We have, but we have to respect each other playing the same game after the same

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rules, like in football, no fouls. We all have the same, we all are different, but we have the

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same rights. And this is if you if you start distracting people into molecules and particles,

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only some people understand those some people want to influence the rest of the world with their

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knowledge. They narrative about their molecules, their view of the world. And they want to tell us

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this is important. You have to be careful from the molecules. I know you don't know them. Yes.

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And this is a they make business with it. And it's not important. There are more important things.

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But Mark, what I also draw from the conversation with you is, you know, I mean, one thing is,

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of course, that we are not ants. I mean, it's really very important. Each, each one of us is

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very important. And each one of us can make the difference, you know, can, can be the tipping

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points, basically, of waking up someone else or like inspiring someone else or themselves,

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you know, do something that's going to be, you know, that's going to tear apart or away the green

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curtain, you know, from the end. And we can then see the little dwarf behind it. But and I think

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it's also, you know, one thing is so important. I think that is that we try to find the truth,

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or like, at least we do not have any taboos in mind, like, you know, corners that we cannot touch

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and that we really have to shine light in, in, in, in every corner. I mean, as you mentioned,

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the, the opioid crisis, the, the Lyme disease and so on. I mean, there cannot be any taboos.

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And I think we, I mean, it's true. Wolfgang says that we cannot be focusing on just the

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topics or the, the train of thought that's been presenting to us, you know,

01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:59.800
been presented to us. But I think it's also really important for us to have no barriers of thinking

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and, and look at all the corners. And I think if we then throw together all everything that we

01:11:05.160 --> 01:11:09.800
find out, and even if some people look at the molecules and say, Oh, there's no molecule,

01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:14.440
or there's, there's this or that, that doesn't make any sense, you know, and even because there

01:11:14.440 --> 01:11:20.280
need to be like people who really question in detail, because otherwise you have no basis for

01:11:20.280 --> 01:11:25.240
maybe questioning or like the statistics and so on. But then I think it's, it's really, we,

01:11:25.240 --> 01:11:32.120
we just have to look in every corner to, to, to find the truth or what we can at that point,

01:11:32.120 --> 01:11:38.040
consider to be the state of knowledge, you know, and question, we have to constantly continue

01:11:38.040 --> 01:11:43.000
questioning what's going on. And I think this is the time, because now so many people have

01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:49.400
really like an, on a large scale, started to question everything. And yet they have not gone

01:11:49.400 --> 01:11:54.040
crazy, all of them. And you know, it's, it's, there's, there's, I think there's even a better

01:11:54.040 --> 01:12:01.720
life. I mean, although it's hard, but it's a better life to, to be not like blinded by whatever the

01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:06.120
media and the narrative and so on. But really look behind the curtains. And I think we have to

01:12:06.120 --> 01:12:10.280
continue doing that. And Mark, I'm looking forward to continuing the conversation with you.

01:12:11.480 --> 01:12:14.440
Thank you so much. Me as well. I appreciate the opportunity.

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Thanks so much. Thank you. Bye.