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Cyrillic letter es with descender should look differently #498

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flashymittens opened this issue Dec 14, 2022 · 5 comments · Fixed by #555 or #562
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Cyrillic letter es with descender should look differently #498

flashymittens opened this issue Dec 14, 2022 · 5 comments · Fixed by #555 or #562

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@flashymittens
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In IBM Plex fonts Cyrillic letters of es with descender (Ҫ U+04AA, ҫ U+04AB) look like a normal vertical line, a descender, however they likely should look more like cyrillic letters es with cedilla, which do not exist in Unicode as separate codepoints for some reason.

This is what Unicode.org says in a PDF¹ on those letters in Cyrillic range:

  • Bashkir, Chuvash
  • letterforms with right hooks are preferred, although occasional variants with left hooks occur
  • in Chuvashia, letterforms identical to or similar in form to 00E7 ç regularly occur

Even the text mentions a hook, not a vertical line. And I have no idea why that is.

And indeed those two letters in Chuvash (CV) look identical to Latin letters of c with cedilla (capital and small). At least that's what we were taught back in the day.

Among the fonts it's all over the place. Noto, for one, uses a differently looking hook (see the screenshot below), which is not ideal, but still preferable over a vertical line.

A comparison of characters between IBM Plex Sans and Noto Sans

  1. https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0400.pdf
@BoldMonday
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Thanks for reporting! We’ll discuss this with our Cyrillic experts.

@flashymittens
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IBM Plex Sans still shows a descender unlike Serif and Mono. Or is that by design?

@BoldMonday
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Unfortunately it has slipped under the radar for Plex Sans indeed.
Will be fixed in the next update.

@flashymittens
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This is marked closed but is not fixed for Sans yet, from what I can see.

@BoldMonday
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The fix for Plex Sans has to wait a little. But it’s on our list.

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