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[OpenType] Language System Tags for Embera languages and Pilaga #1036

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moyogo opened this issue May 4, 2023 · 3 comments
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[OpenType] Language System Tags for Embera languages and Pilaga #1036

moyogo opened this issue May 4, 2023 · 3 comments

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moyogo commented May 4, 2023

At least two Emberá languages, Northern Emberá [emp], Emberá Chamí [cmi], use the letters B with a median stroke and D with a median stroke in some orthographies, and Pilagá [plg] uses the letter B with a media stroke.
There is already a recently encoded Ꟈ U+A7C7 and ꟈ U+A7C8 that may be used instead of Đ U+0110 and đ U+0111, but there is no specific character for B with median stroke, if or Ƀ U+0243 and ƀ U+0180 or Đ U+0110 and đ U+0111 or Ƀ U+0243 and ƀ U+0180 are used their shapes in these two Emberá languages should be different than their default shape in pretty much all modern fonts which have a short stroke on the bottom right or bottom right of the capitals and through the ascender of the small letters, whereas the letters in Emberá orthographies have a long stroke or even a diagonal stroke through the capitals B and D and a median stroke through the small letters b and d and the letters in Pilagá orthogaphy have a long stroke through the capital B and a median stroke through the small letter b.

The Language System Tag 'PLG ' is already defined for "Palaung", Pilagá could use 'PLG0'.

Please consider adding the following Language System Tags:

Language System Language System Tag Corresponding ISO 639 ID (if applicable)
Emberá-Chamí 'CMI ' cmi
Northern Emberá 'EMP ' emp
Pilagá 'PLG0' plg

Other Emberá languages could also have Language System Tags:

Language System Language System Tag Corresponding ISO 639 ID (if applicable)
Emberá-Baudó 'BDC ' bdc
Emberá-Catío 'CTO ' cto
Epena 'SJA ' sja
Emberá-Tadó 'TDC ' tdc

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@moyogo moyogo changed the title [OpenType] Language System Tag for Embera languages and Pilaga [OpenType] Language System Tags for Embera languages and Pilaga Jul 24, 2023
@PeterConstable
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If different languages use the same typographic convention, is it better to have distinct language system tags for each, or one that reflects the convention shared across multiple languages?

@moyogo
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moyogo commented Feb 17, 2024

Within the Chocó languages using letters with stroke overlay, the Northern Emberá and Emberá-Chamí conventions might be different.

The Northern Emberá Bible translation published in Panama uses diagonal strokes on the capitals but Dadyi Beꟈeada Ƀʌꟈia, Guía para docentes uses horizontal strokes. The official alphabet published Gaceta Oficial did not show the capitals.

The Comité de educación bilingüe ẽbẽra bed̶ea chamí’s syllabary uses the capital Ƀ as is instead of a B with a long stroke.

It would be good to have more reference documents in both but this is difficult.

Pilagá is not related to Chocó languages.

@PeterCon
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See the OT 1.9.1 alpha for draft revisions addressing this issue.

@PeterCon PeterCon added this to the OpenType 1.9.1 milestone Apr 16, 2024
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