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[Bug]: Lowercase é and è are not symmetric #239

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ghost opened this issue Nov 2, 2023 · 11 comments
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[Bug]: Lowercase é and è are not symmetric #239

ghost opened this issue Nov 2, 2023 · 11 comments
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ghost commented Nov 2, 2023

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Basic (Personal)

What version are you using?

2.011

What type of weights are you using?

Default (non-customized)

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macOS Sonoma 14.1

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Hello,

It bothers me that MonoLisa’s lowercase é and è are not symmetric. This is particularly blatant when the 2 characters are found in proximity to each other, inside the same word, which happens relatively often in the French language:

élève
préfères
étagère
phénomène

Note that the uppercase É and È are fine.

(See simple screenshot taken in TextEdit.)

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okonet commented Nov 2, 2023

Thanks for the report! We will take a look at it soon.

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okonet commented Nov 2, 2023

Hmm, it looks correct in the specimen. image

@ghost
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ghost commented Nov 2, 2023

On my computer, the specimen on the website looks incorrect. And I tried different browsers.

(See 2 simple screenshots taken in Safari.)

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ghost commented Nov 2, 2023

OK, I played around with the specimen. If I specify using the browser inspector:

-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;

the è looks correct. But the other values, such as:

-webkit-font-smoothing: auto;

or:

-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased;

look incorrect.

And “auto” is the default value.

(See 2 additional screenshots.)

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That’s weird. As I suspected, it is not just the e but the accent. If we look at the diacritics of i we see the same effect. Still everything looks fine on two browsers on my screen as well. Will look into the file today.

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MarcusSterz commented Nov 2, 2023

So the bespoken accent (‘grave’) looks flawless in the Glyphs file (pic below). The source file as well as static or variable TTFs look perfect. Also the grave is only a mirrored component from the acute accent. The problem is likely somewhere else.

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However: There is an definitely issue with the rendering of the grave: I see it also in TextEdit, TextMate, Apples Fontbook and FontExplorer (pic shows Apple Fontbook)
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I do not see it in Indesign, though (pic with blue letters) or Affinity Publisher.

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Edit: Adding that this issue does not appear with 2.010. Also I have not touched the accents for 2.011. This is an interesting problem for the Glyphs Forum ;-)

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Will be solved in the upcoming version.

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bebraw commented Nov 17, 2023

If you want to try, the upcoming fix is available in the prerelease version now.

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ghost commented Dec 8, 2023

Apparently, the preview release channel isn’t available for Basic users like me. But I will take your word for it, and close this issue.

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bebraw commented Dec 15, 2023

Fixed in 2.012 available now.

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ghost commented Dec 15, 2023

Indeed, problem fixed in the new version. Thank you very much!

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