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Multiplayer Games and You (and bans) #181

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Nukem9 opened this issue Dec 21, 2023 · 48 comments
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Multiplayer Games and You (and bans) #181

Nukem9 opened this issue Dec 21, 2023 · 48 comments

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@Nukem9
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Nukem9 commented Dec 21, 2023

MULTIPLAYER GAMES ARE NOT SUPPORTED. ANTI-CHEATS WILL BAN YOU.

Replacing DLL files is never safe in online games. I don't care whether it works or not. I'm not responsible for your ban.


A Note on DisableNvidiaSignatureChecks.reg (#178 (comment))

DisableNvidiaSignatureChecks.reg is safe for multiplayer games. DLL modification is not safe for multiplayer games. The registry file doesn't interfere with normal Windows operation. It is Nvidia specific. So you're going to ask, what's its purpose and why does it exist?

Why?

  • On game startup Nvidia NGX code checks for the presence of nvngx.dll in the game's local directory.
  • If not present, it'll fall back to nvngx.dll stored in C:\Windows\system32.
  • If present, it'll validate that the DLL is digitally signed by Nvidia and Nvidia only. If signature validation succeeds, or the registry override tweak is used, nvngx.dll is loaded. Otherwise it loads nvngx.dll stored in C:\Windows\system32.

Purpose?

  • Security risk reduction (aka reducing attack surface/vectors). Nvidia's driver is installed on millions of computers. They definitely don't want malicious attackers dropping nvngx.dll into random folders and having their driver automatically load it.
  • Additional bonus of detecting corrupted installs and preventing weird bugs.

For many games, this security is useless. You can casually drop dxgi.dll or d3d12.dll (e.g. ReShade) into folders and games will happily load those DLLs, signature or not. If you're in an environment where security is of utmost importance, you probably shouldn't be playing games in the first place.


Anti-cheats banning users for simple registry edits would be completely insane. It'd be equivalent to banning people for using outdated graphics drivers. Could an insane developer ban you for it? Sure. Is it likely to happen? No.

EAC & BattlEye don't care for dumb registry tweaks. They intercept Windows DLL loader code and whitelist/blacklist DLLs as they see fit.

For those who are paranoid, run RestoreNvidiaSignatureChecks.reg before switching games. All registry key traces are eliminated.


As of version 0.90 registry key overrides aren't necessary when using Universal builds.

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@Nukem9 Nukem9 changed the title Multiplayer Games and You Multiplayer Games and You (and bans) Dec 21, 2023
@TheWoodsy
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I strongly recommend adding this to the Readme.

@hamadtareen1
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I did play with it in warzone 2. I got high fps. But the game crashes after every match giving a directx error. Specifically at cutscenes. Consider someone does just want to play at high fps until they get banned. Is there any fix for this directx error till then?

the error is this one.

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@Z4ndyz
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Z4ndyz commented Dec 21, 2023

It might just be the anticheat nuking the game instance

@D4rKPllayz22
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so can i use it in call of duty mw 3 ???

@ArthurFiNCH
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so can i use it in call of duty mw 3 ???

Theoretically yes, practically - it is not recommended. Messing with .dll files may be considered a potential threat by anticheat and you will be banned as a result.

@D4rKPllayz22
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@ArthurFiNCH I played for hrs and nothing occurred.. Is it really going to be a problem in COD ???

@hamadtareen1
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@ArthurFiNCH I played for hrs and nothing occurred.. Is it really going to be a problem in COD ???

Did you play it in warzone? You game does not crash after a match? With the error in the picture above?

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ArthurFiNCH commented Dec 21, 2023

@ArthurFiNCH I played for hrs and nothing occurred.. Is it really going to be a problem in COD ???

I'm not saying you can't use this mod in multiplayer games. I'm just explaining that there is quite a risk of your account being banned, for which only you, not the creator of the mod, will be responsible.

The creator of this topic is also the creator of the mod and his statement about multiplayer games is: MULTIPLAYER GAMES ARE NOT SUPPORTED. ANTI-CHEATS WILL BAN YOU.

@hamadtareen1 I have not used it in multiplayer games.

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ICSACE commented Dec 21, 2023

@ArthurFiNCH I played for hrs and nothing occurred.. Is it really going to be a problem in COD ???

Did you play it in warzone? You game does not crash after a match? With the error in the picture above?

2 days playing WZ3 with mod and no ban, Ricochet anti cheat is useless and relies on reports mainly. Also it would stop you launching the game if it was to work as it does file checks on launch. NVIDIA files are being tampered with not Activision. Still though, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!! I don't care if I get banned too many hackers in the game, they should worry about that than me trying to get more frames in their poorly optimized game

@hamadtareen1
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@ArthurFiNCH I played for hrs and nothing occurred.. Is it really going to be a problem in COD ???

Did you play it in warzone? You game does not crash after a match? With the error in the picture above?

2 days playing WZ3 with mod and no ban, Ricochet anti cheat is useless and relies on reports mainly. Also it would stop you launching the game if it was to work as it does file checks on launch. NVIDIA files are being tampered with not Activision. Still though, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!! I don't care if I get banned too many hackers in the game, they should worry about that than me trying to get more frames in their poorly optimized game

How are you not getting the crash? I keep getting the crash after every game. What are you grphics display settings?

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ICSACE commented Dec 21, 2023

@ArthurFiNCH I played for hrs and nothing occurred.. Is it really going to be a problem in COD ???

Did you play it in warzone? You game does not crash after a match? With the error in the picture above?

2 days playing WZ3 with mod and no ban, Ricochet anti cheat is useless and relies on reports mainly. Also it would stop you launching the game if it was to work as it does file checks on launch. NVIDIA files are being tampered with not Activision. Still though, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!! I don't care if I get banned too many hackers in the game, they should worry about that than me trying to get more frames in their poorly optimized game

How are you not getting the crash? I keep getting the crash after every game. What are you grphics display settings?

Are you using Rivatuner, if so close it and afterburner, use driver 546.29

@Z4ndyz
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Z4ndyz commented Dec 21, 2023

FYI Bans unless heavily reported or an infamous known cheat happen in banwaves later or after a threshold or trigger has been met you might be fine now but i wouldnt risk on using this mod on multi

This mod is similar to how ReShade works and that is heavily not advised in mumtiplayers and there have been bans for reshade

@hamadtareen1
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@ArthurFiNCH I played for hrs and nothing occurred.. Is it really going to be a problem in COD ???

Did you play it in warzone? You game does not crash after a match? With the error in the picture above?

2 days playing WZ3 with mod and no ban, Ricochet anti cheat is useless and relies on reports mainly. Also it would stop you launching the game if it was to work as it does file checks on launch. NVIDIA files are being tampered with not Activision. Still though, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!! I don't care if I get banned too many hackers in the game, they should worry about that than me trying to get more frames in their poorly optimized game

How are you not getting the crash? I keep getting the crash after every game. What are you grphics display settings?

Are you using Rivatuner, if so close it and afterburner, use driver 546.29

Im using the driver and not using the other 2. Still crashes. What are your graphic settings?.

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ICSACE commented Dec 22, 2023

@ArthurFiNCH I played for hrs and nothing occurred.. Is it really going to be a problem in COD ???

Did you play it in warzone? You game does not crash after a match? With the error in the picture above?

2 days playing WZ3 with mod and no ban, Ricochet anti cheat is useless and relies on reports mainly. Also it would stop you launching the game if it was to work as it does file checks on launch. NVIDIA files are being tampered with not Activision. Still though, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!! I don't care if I get banned too many hackers in the game, they should worry about that than me trying to get more frames in their poorly optimized game

How are you not getting the crash? I keep getting the crash after every game. What are you grphics display settings?

Are you using Rivatuner, if so close it and afterburner, use driver 546.29

Im using the driver and not using the other 2. Still crashes. What are your graphic settings?.

The game crashes sometimes even without the mod, the game isn't stable at the moment. Try the DLSS Tweaks method

@carlo-pignatiello
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Hi guys, played on Warzone and no bans up to now. It works pretty well, to avoid crash I advice you to turn on FM after the cutscenes. I don't know if this is a good solution.

@hamadtareen1
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Hi guys, played on Warzone and no bans up to now. It works pretty well, to avoid crash I advice you to turn on FM after the cutscenes. I don't know if this is a good solution.

What is FM? And my usually game crashes in the plane scene when they show the players. I mean in the plane cutscene. And also when i die in resurgence and you spawn back thats when it usually crashes. But besides that it also crashes at random instances. The game never crashes without the mod for me. It only crashes after 1 game or during the first game with the mod. I also posted the directX crash error i get somewhere above in this convo. If anyone can tell me the fix for it it’ll be great. Thanks.

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Hi guys, played on Warzone and no bans up to now. It works pretty well, to avoid crash I advice you to turn on FM after the cutscenes. I don't know if this is a good solution.

What is FM? And my usually game crashes in the plane scene when they show the players. I mean in the plane cutscene. And also when i die in resurgence and you spawn back thats when it usually crashes. But besides that it also crashes at random instances. The game never crashes without the mod for me. It only crashes after 1 game or during the first game with the mod. I also posted the directX crash error i get somewhere above in this convo. If anyone can tell me the fix for it it’ll be great. Thanks.

For me it crashes when I put the frame generator (FM) on. With FM off it works well but obviously no extra FPS. I'm a bit worried about ban 😐

@hamadtareen1
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Hi guys, played on Warzone and no bans up to now. It works pretty well, to avoid crash I advice you to turn on FM after the cutscenes. I don't know if this is a good solution.

What is FM? And my usually game crashes in the plane scene when they show the players. I mean in the plane cutscene. And also when i die in resurgence and you spawn back thats when it usually crashes. But besides that it also crashes at random instances. The game never crashes without the mod for me. It only crashes after 1 game or during the first game with the mod. I also posted the directX crash error i get somewhere above in this convo. If anyone can tell me the fix for it it’ll be great. Thanks.

For me it crashes when I put the frame generator (FM) on. With FM off it works well but obviously no extra FPS. I'm a bit worried about ban 😐

If you dont need the frames then why did you get the mod? Doesn’t make sense.

@carlo-pignatiello
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Hi guys, played on Warzone and no bans up to now. It works pretty well, to avoid crash I advice you to turn on FM after the cutscenes. I don't know if this is a good solution.

What is FM? And my usually game crashes in the plane scene when they show the players. I mean in the plane cutscene. And also when i die in resurgence and you spawn back thats when it usually crashes. But besides that it also crashes at random instances. The game never crashes without the mod for me. It only crashes after 1 game or during the first game with the mod. I also posted the directX crash error i get somewhere above in this convo. If anyone can tell me the fix for it it’ll be great. Thanks.

For me it crashes when I put the frame generator (FM) on. With FM off it works well but obviously no extra FPS. I'm a bit worried about ban 😐

If you dont need the frames then why did you get the mod? Doesn’t make sense.

As I said before I turn ON the FM after the cutscenes to avoid crash

@hamadtareen1
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That seems like too much work. On and off back and forth. I wish there was a permanent fix for this. @Nukem9

@ElBlackxFire
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Oi pessoal, jogou no Warzone e sem banimentos até agora. Funciona muito bem, para evitar travamento eu aconselho você a ligar o FM após as cutscenes. Não sei se esta é uma boa solução.

Hello, what way did you use to put FM in warzone?

@marcos11335599
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That seems like too much work. On and off back and forth. I wish there was a permanent fix for this. @Nukem9

Did you find the solution to the problem?

@hamadtareen1
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That seems like too much work. On and off back and forth. I wish there was a permanent fix for this. @Nukem9

Did you find the solution to the problem?

Nope

@MohashinMubde
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Hi guys, played on Warzone and no bans up to now. It works pretty well, to avoid crash I advice you to turn on FM after the cutscenes. I don't know if this is a good solution.

What is FM? And my usually game crashes in the plane scene when they show the players. I mean in the plane cutscene. And also when i die in resurgence and you spawn back thats when it usually crashes. But besides that it also crashes at random instances. The game never crashes without the mod for me. It only crashes after 1 game or during the first game with the mod. I also posted the directX crash error i get somewhere above in this convo. If anyone can tell me the fix for it it’ll be great. Thanks.

For me it crashes when I put the frame generator (FM) on. With FM off it works well but obviously no extra FPS. I'm a bit worried about ban 😐

If you dont need the frames then why did you get the mod? Doesn’t make sense.

As I said before I turn ON the FM after the cutscenes to avoid crash

Hey Carlo, I hope you are doing well. I was wondering where you put those files in the COD folder? I am not sure where since there are like 10 different folders with other folders in them. Any help is appreciated.

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这似乎工作量太大了。来回断断续续。我希望有一个永久的解决办法。

你找到问题的解决方案了吗?

Have you solved it?

@hamadtareen1
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这似乎工作量太大了。来回断断续续。我希望有一个永久的解决办法。

你找到问题的解决方案了吗?

Have you solved it?

Nope

@hamadtareen1
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If anyone finds the fix. Do post it here.

@MohashinMubde
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If anyone finds the fix. Do post it here.

Did you make sure your graphics drivers are updated? I tried it and the Frame Generation option shows but my graphics gets super messed up when it's on…does not load/looks like Roblox (2070 Super) on Steam. This mod does not work on Battlenet it looks like unless I’m doing it wrong.

@hamadtareen1
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If anyone finds the fix. Do post it here.

Did you make sure your graphics drivers are updated? I tried it and the Frame Generation option shows but my graphics gets super messed up when it's on…does not load/looks like Roblox (2070 Super) on Steam. This mod does not work on Battlenet it looks like unless I’m doing it wrong.

Yes everythings updated. The mod works on battlenet. Im on battlenet. The issue is it crashes after a while. There is frame generation and the frames increase but it crashes everytime after a while with the error i posted above. Thats the issue.

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If anyone finds the fix. Do post it here.

Did you make sure your graphics drivers are updated? I tried it and the Frame Generation option shows but my graphics gets super messed up when it's on…does not load/looks like Roblox (2070 Super) on Steam. This mod does not work on Battlenet it looks like unless I’m doing it wrong.

Yes everythings updated. The mod works on battlenet. Im on battlenet. The issue is it crashes after a while. There is frame generation and the frames increase but it crashes everytime after a while with the error i posted above. Thats the issue.

You're going to get a ban...

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If anyone finds the fix. Do post it here.

Did you make sure your graphics drivers are updated? I tried it and the Frame Generation option shows but my graphics gets super messed up when it's on…does not load/looks like Roblox (2070 Super) on Steam. This mod does not work on Battlenet it looks like unless I’m doing it wrong.

Yes everythings updated. The mod works on battlenet. Im on battlenet. The issue is it crashes after a while. There is frame generation and the frames increase but it crashes everytime after a while with the error i posted above. Thats the issue.

Which folder did you put it in for BattleNet? I tried to put it but it does not show up

@D4rKPllayz22
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Which folder did you put it in for BattleNet? I tried to put it but it does not show up

I'M WARNING YOU !! WILL GET BAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Which folder did you put it in for BattleNet? I tried to put it but it does not show up

I'M WARNING YOU !! WILL GET BAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you get banned?

@hamadtareen1
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If anyone finds the fix. Do post it here.

Did you make sure your graphics drivers are updated? I tried it and the Frame Generation option shows but my graphics gets super messed up when it's on…does not load/looks like Roblox (2070 Super) on Steam. This mod does not work on Battlenet it looks like unless I’m doing it wrong.

Yes everythings updated. The mod works on battlenet. Im on battlenet. The issue is it crashes after a while. There is frame generation and the frames increase but it crashes everytime after a while with the error i posted above. Thats the issue.

Which folder did you put it in for BattleNet? I tried to put it but it does not show up

Put it in the “retail” folder

@MohashinMubde
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If anyone finds the fix. Do post it here.

Did you make sure your graphics drivers are updated? I tried it and the Frame Generation option shows but my graphics gets super messed up when it's on…does not load/looks like Roblox (2070 Super) on Steam. This mod does not work on Battlenet it looks like unless I’m doing it wrong.

Yes everythings updated. The mod works on battlenet. Im on battlenet. The issue is it crashes after a while. There is frame generation and the frames increase but it crashes everytime after a while with the error i posted above. Thats the issue.

Which folder did you put it in for BattleNet? I tried to put it but it does not show up

Put it in the “retail” folder

I just tried it out for the first game and my game crashed. I got a different error saying my GPU may have been overclocked. It works perfectly but maybe since it’s the beta, the bugs haven’t been washed out yet

@ICSACE
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ICSACE commented Jan 2, 2024

Almost a month using still no ban, however if using LUKEYZ mod you will get banned immediately

@Mohamed-Moslem-Allouch
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I did play with it in warzone 2. I got high fps. But the game crashes after every match giving a directx error. Specifically at cutscenes. Consider someone does just want to play at high fps until they get banned. Is there any fix for this directx error till then?

the error is this one.

image

do not try it i got permanently banned

@TheOriginalBabu
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I did play with it in warzone 2. I got high fps. But the game crashes after every match giving a directx error. Specifically at cutscenes. Consider someone does just want to play at high fps until they get banned. Is there any fix for this directx error till then?
the error is this one.
image

do not try it i got permanently banned

you're the first ban? was the dlss3 mod the only one you were using?

@Mohamed-Moslem-Allouch
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Mohamed-Moslem-Allouch commented Jan 8, 2024

I did play with it in warzone 2. I got high fps. But the game crashes after every match giving a directx error. Specifically at cutscenes. Consider someone does just want to play at high fps until they get banned. Is there any fix for this directx error till then?
the error is this one.
image

do not try it i got permanently banned

you're the first ban? was the dlss3 mod the only one you were using?

Yes! It was my first ban with dlss3 mod only!
Also it's a hardware ban sadly --

@TripleKiller666
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I did play with it in warzone 2. I got high fps. But the game crashes after every match giving a directx error. Specifically at cutscenes. Consider someone does just want to play at high fps until they get banned. Is there any fix for this directx error till then?
the error is this one.
image

do not try it i got permanently banned

you're the first ban? was the dlss3 mod the only one you were using?

Yes! It was my first ban with dlss3 mod only! Also it's a hardware ban sadly --

I call bullshit on that claim, prolly used Aimbot aswell and just won´t admit it.

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FlowersPowerz commented Jan 15, 2024

I have been permanently banned too on warzone 2. I never used cheat, I've only placed the dll files, but I was unlucky, after I've started the game, they've banned immediately me. I've been banned also from the consoles cause their are linked to my Activision account. I'm done with cod, I think, forever.

@TheOriginalBabu
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thats two more instances of bans than I can recall with DLSStweaks

@FlowersPowerz
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thats two more instances of bans than I can recall with DLSStweaks

But I think they have blacklisted this mod and consider it as cheat. I contacted support about it and they were clear that it falls under unauthorized software and the ban is not revocable. Madness, I could have gotten more fps just by changing video card, even that should be a cheat if they put it that way. Whatever, it doesn't change anything for me, I don't like cod fortunately it's not a big loss for me, I just wanted to try it, it's not a hardware ban, creating another account seems to work without problems

@TheOriginalBabu
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every mod is blacklisted by default, that is the whole reason this issue is even open.

cheats can use custom DLL injection which is effectively the same as what this mod does, so the method itself is blanket banned.

technically they're not out to get you or deprive you of FPS, it's just a byproduct of their lazy anti-cheat measures.

@FlowersPowerz
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It has to be said that to get a permanent ban even on consoles, it's really sad, even explaining what happened. I'm glad I don't have anything to do with this game anymore. They did me a favor.

@ICSACE
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ICSACE commented Jan 16, 2024

Unlucky for you, I have been using this mod for over a month and still no ban, i'm really bad at the game

@Mohamed-Moslem-Allouch
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I did play with it in warzone 2. I got high fps. But the game crashes after every match giving a directx error. Specifically at cutscenes. Consider someone does just want to play at high fps until they get banned. Is there any fix for this directx error till then?
the error is this one.
image

do not try it i got permanently banned

you're the first ban? was the dlss3 mod the only one you were using?

Yes! It was my first ban with dlss3 mod only! Also it's a hardware ban sadly --

I call bullshit on that claim, prolly used Aimbot aswell and just won´t admit it.

do you know why you are so stupid?, because you can't even differentiate between modding and cheating

@Mohamed-Moslem-Allouch
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Unlucky for you, I have been using this mod for over a month and still no ban, i'm really bad at the game

be careful broo!

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