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Hydra GL renderer ignores GeomSubset material bindings #542

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jufrantz opened this issue Jun 25, 2018 · 10 comments
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Hydra GL renderer ignores GeomSubset material bindings #542

jufrantz opened this issue Jun 25, 2018 · 10 comments

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@jufrantz
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Description of Issue

Attached usd file in geomSubsetMaterialBindings.tar.gz defines mesh /all/cube_redAndBlue with two face subsets red_set and blue_set.
Each subset has a material bound to it using attached constant.glslfx shader.

from pxr import Usd, UsdShade 
stage = Usd.Stage.Open('geomSubsetMaterialBindings.usda') 
subsetPrim = stage.GetPrimAtPath('/all/cube_redAndBlue/red_set')
print(UsdShade.MaterialBindingAPI(subsetPrim).ComputeBoundMaterial()[0].GetPath())
# /all/Looks/constant_red

When rendered with hydra GL, subsets shaders are not taken into account.

Steps to Reproduce

  1. Open the geomSubsetMaterialBindings.usda file in usdview
  2. /all/cube_redAndBlue is drawn with a green displayColor fallback shader, instead of the two constant shaders.

System Information (OS, Hardware)

Linux

Package Versions

USD 0.8.5a

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@spiffmon
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Hi @jufrantz ,
Thanks, this is a known current limitation. Currently, usdImaging and Hydra process GeomSubsets and make them available (with material bindings) to the render delegates, but only our IP hdPrman delegate (which will ship with Renderman) thus far implements it. Adding support for HdStream is on our radar, but I don;'t have a concrete date for you yet.

CHeers,
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@jtran56
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jtran56 commented Jun 25, 2018

Filed as internal issue #162212.

@jufrantz
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Hello @spiffmon ,
Ok. Thank you for the detailed feedback.
We will try to work around this in the meanwhile; and will keep an attentive eye on HdStream updates.
Thanks !

@jackcaron
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Question, are GeomSubset can be used as the equivalent to multi-materials? If you know which faces use which material you can create a subset with the list of faces and bind them?

Also, is that supported by AR kit?

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spiffmon commented Jun 3, 2019 via email

fsiddi pushed a commit to blender/blender that referenced this issue Nov 22, 2019
This commit introduces an exporter to Pixar's Universal Scene
Description (USD) format.

- The USD libraries are expected to be in /opt/usd/, not yet built by
  install_deps.sh. I'll work on that while this patch is under review.
- Only experimental support for instancing; by default all duplicated
  objects are made real in the USD file. This is fine for exporting a
  linked-in posed character, not so much for thousands of pebbles etc.
- This patch contains LazyDodo's fixes for building on Windows in D5359.

== Meshes ==

USD seems to support neither per-material nor per-face-group
double-sidedness, so we just use the flag from the first non-empty
material slot. If there is no material we default to double-sidedness.

Each UV map is stored on the mesh in a separate primvar. Materials can
refer to these UV maps, but this is not yet exported by Blender. The
primvar name is the same as the UV Map name. This is to allow the
standard name "st" for texture coordinates by naming the UV Map as such,
without having to guess which UV Map is the "standard" one.

Face-varying mesh normals are written to USD. When the mesh has custom
loop normals those are written. Otherwise the poly flag `ME_SMOOTH` is
inspected to determine the normals.

The UV maps and mesh normals take up a significant amount of space, so
exporting them is optional. They're still enabled by default, though.
For comparison: a shot of Spring (03_035_A) is 1.2 GiB when exported
with UVs and normals, and 262 MiB without. We probably have room for
optimisation of written UVs and normals.

The mesh subdivision scheme isn't using the default value 'Catmull
Clark', but uses 'None', indicating we're exporting a polygonal mesh.
This is necessary for USD to understand our normals; otherwise the mesh
is always rendered smooth. In the future we may want to expose this
choice of subdivision scheme to the user, or auto-detect it when we
actually support exporting pre-subdivision meshes.

A possible optimisation could be to inspect whether all polygons are
smooth or flat, and mark the USD mesh as such. This can be added when
needed.

== Animation ==

Mesh and transform animation are now written when passing
`animation=True` to the export operator. There is no inspection of
whether an object is actually animated or not; USD can handle
deduplication of static values for us.

The administration of which timecode to use for the export is left to
the file-format-specific concrete subclasses of
`AbstractHierarchyIterator`; the abstract iterator itself doesn't know
anything about the passage of time. This will allow subclasses for the
frame-based USD format and time-based Alembic format.

== support for simple preview materials ==

Very simple versions of the materials are now exported, using only the
viewport diffuse RGB, metallic, and roughness.

When there are multiple materials, the mesh faces are stored as geometry
subset and each material is assigned to the appropriate subset. If there
is only one material this is skipped.

The first material if any) is always applied to the mesh itself
(regardless of the existence of geometry subsets), because the Hydra
viewport doesn't support materials on subsets. See
PixarAnimationStudios/OpenUSD#542 for more info.

Note that the geometry subsets are not yet time-sampled, so it may break
when an animated mesh changes topology.

== Hair ==

Only the parent strands are exported, and only with a constant colour.
No UV coordinates, no information about the normals.

== Camera ==

Only perspective cameras are supported for now.

== Particles ==

Particles are only written when they are alive, which means that they
are always visible (there is currently no code that deals with marking
them as invisible outside their lifespan).

Particle-system-instanced objects are exported by suffixing the object
name with the particle's persistent ID, giving each particle XForm a
unique name.

== Instancing/referencing ==

This exporter has experimental support for instancing/referencing.

Dupli-object meshes are now written to USD as references to the original
mesh. This is still very limited in correctness, as there are issues
referencing to materials from a referenced mesh.

I am still committing this, as it gives us a place to start when
continuing the quest for proper instancing in USD.

== Lights ==

USD does not directly support spot lights, so those aren't exported yet.
It's possible to add this in the future via the UsdLuxShapingAPI. The
units used for the light intensity are also still a bit of a mystery.

== Fluid vertex velocities ==

Currently only fluid simulations (not meshes in general) have explicit
vertex velocities. This is the most important case for exporting
velocities, though, as the baked mesh changes topology all the time, and
thus computing the velocities at import time in a post-processing step
is hard.
fsiddi pushed a commit to blender/blender that referenced this issue Nov 26, 2019
This commit introduces an exporter to Pixar's Universal Scene
Description (USD) format.

- The USD libraries are expected to be in /opt/usd/, not yet built by
  install_deps.sh. I'll work on that while this patch is under review.
- Only experimental support for instancing; by default all duplicated
  objects are made real in the USD file. This is fine for exporting a
  linked-in posed character, not so much for thousands of pebbles etc.
- This patch contains LazyDodo's fixes for building on Windows in D5359.

== Meshes ==

USD seems to support neither per-material nor per-face-group
double-sidedness, so we just use the flag from the first non-empty
material slot. If there is no material we default to double-sidedness.

Each UV map is stored on the mesh in a separate primvar. Materials can
refer to these UV maps, but this is not yet exported by Blender. The
primvar name is the same as the UV Map name. This is to allow the
standard name "st" for texture coordinates by naming the UV Map as such,
without having to guess which UV Map is the "standard" one.

Face-varying mesh normals are written to USD. When the mesh has custom
loop normals those are written. Otherwise the poly flag `ME_SMOOTH` is
inspected to determine the normals.

The UV maps and mesh normals take up a significant amount of space, so
exporting them is optional. They're still enabled by default, though.
For comparison: a shot of Spring (03_035_A) is 1.2 GiB when exported
with UVs and normals, and 262 MiB without. We probably have room for
optimisation of written UVs and normals.

The mesh subdivision scheme isn't using the default value 'Catmull
Clark', but uses 'None', indicating we're exporting a polygonal mesh.
This is necessary for USD to understand our normals; otherwise the mesh
is always rendered smooth. In the future we may want to expose this
choice of subdivision scheme to the user, or auto-detect it when we
actually support exporting pre-subdivision meshes.

A possible optimisation could be to inspect whether all polygons are
smooth or flat, and mark the USD mesh as such. This can be added when
needed.

== Animation ==

Mesh and transform animation are now written when passing
`animation=True` to the export operator. There is no inspection of
whether an object is actually animated or not; USD can handle
deduplication of static values for us.

The administration of which timecode to use for the export is left to
the file-format-specific concrete subclasses of
`AbstractHierarchyIterator`; the abstract iterator itself doesn't know
anything about the passage of time. This will allow subclasses for the
frame-based USD format and time-based Alembic format.

== support for simple preview materials ==

Very simple versions of the materials are now exported, using only the
viewport diffuse RGB, metallic, and roughness.

When there are multiple materials, the mesh faces are stored as geometry
subset and each material is assigned to the appropriate subset. If there
is only one material this is skipped.

The first material if any) is always applied to the mesh itself
(regardless of the existence of geometry subsets), because the Hydra
viewport doesn't support materials on subsets. See
PixarAnimationStudios/OpenUSD#542 for more info.

Note that the geometry subsets are not yet time-sampled, so it may break
when an animated mesh changes topology.

== Hair ==

Only the parent strands are exported, and only with a constant colour.
No UV coordinates, no information about the normals.

== Camera ==

Only perspective cameras are supported for now.

== Particles ==

Particles are only written when they are alive, which means that they
are always visible (there is currently no code that deals with marking
them as invisible outside their lifespan).

Particle-system-instanced objects are exported by suffixing the object
name with the particle's persistent ID, giving each particle XForm a
unique name.

== Instancing/referencing ==

This exporter has experimental support for instancing/referencing.

Dupli-object meshes are now written to USD as references to the original
mesh. This is still very limited in correctness, as there are issues
referencing to materials from a referenced mesh.

I am still committing this, as it gives us a place to start when
continuing the quest for proper instancing in USD.

== Lights ==

USD does not directly support spot lights, so those aren't exported yet.
It's possible to add this in the future via the UsdLuxShapingAPI. The
units used for the light intensity are also still a bit of a mystery.

== Fluid vertex velocities ==

Currently only fluid simulations (not meshes in general) have explicit
vertex velocities. This is the most important case for exporting
velocities, though, as the baked mesh changes topology all the time, and
thus computing the velocities at import time in a post-processing step
is hard.
fsiddi pushed a commit to blender/blender that referenced this issue Nov 28, 2019
This commit introduces an exporter to Pixar's Universal Scene
Description (USD) format.

- The USD libraries are expected to be in /opt/usd/, not yet built by
  install_deps.sh. I'll work on that while this patch is under review.
- Only experimental support for instancing; by default all duplicated
  objects are made real in the USD file. This is fine for exporting a
  linked-in posed character, not so much for thousands of pebbles etc.
- This patch contains LazyDodo's fixes for building on Windows in D5359.

== Meshes ==

USD seems to support neither per-material nor per-face-group
double-sidedness, so we just use the flag from the first non-empty
material slot. If there is no material we default to double-sidedness.

Each UV map is stored on the mesh in a separate primvar. Materials can
refer to these UV maps, but this is not yet exported by Blender. The
primvar name is the same as the UV Map name. This is to allow the
standard name "st" for texture coordinates by naming the UV Map as such,
without having to guess which UV Map is the "standard" one.

Face-varying mesh normals are written to USD. When the mesh has custom
loop normals those are written. Otherwise the poly flag `ME_SMOOTH` is
inspected to determine the normals.

The UV maps and mesh normals take up a significant amount of space, so
exporting them is optional. They're still enabled by default, though.
For comparison: a shot of Spring (03_035_A) is 1.2 GiB when exported
with UVs and normals, and 262 MiB without. We probably have room for
optimisation of written UVs and normals.

The mesh subdivision scheme isn't using the default value 'Catmull
Clark', but uses 'None', indicating we're exporting a polygonal mesh.
This is necessary for USD to understand our normals; otherwise the mesh
is always rendered smooth. In the future we may want to expose this
choice of subdivision scheme to the user, or auto-detect it when we
actually support exporting pre-subdivision meshes.

A possible optimisation could be to inspect whether all polygons are
smooth or flat, and mark the USD mesh as such. This can be added when
needed.

== Animation ==

Mesh and transform animation are now written when passing
`animation=True` to the export operator. There is no inspection of
whether an object is actually animated or not; USD can handle
deduplication of static values for us.

The administration of which timecode to use for the export is left to
the file-format-specific concrete subclasses of
`AbstractHierarchyIterator`; the abstract iterator itself doesn't know
anything about the passage of time. This will allow subclasses for the
frame-based USD format and time-based Alembic format.

== support for simple preview materials ==

Very simple versions of the materials are now exported, using only the
viewport diffuse RGB, metallic, and roughness.

When there are multiple materials, the mesh faces are stored as geometry
subset and each material is assigned to the appropriate subset. If there
is only one material this is skipped.

The first material if any) is always applied to the mesh itself
(regardless of the existence of geometry subsets), because the Hydra
viewport doesn't support materials on subsets. See
PixarAnimationStudios/OpenUSD#542 for more info.

Note that the geometry subsets are not yet time-sampled, so it may break
when an animated mesh changes topology.

== Hair ==

Only the parent strands are exported, and only with a constant colour.
No UV coordinates, no information about the normals.

== Camera ==

Only perspective cameras are supported for now.

== Particles ==

Particles are only written when they are alive, which means that they
are always visible (there is currently no code that deals with marking
them as invisible outside their lifespan).

Particle-system-instanced objects are exported by suffixing the object
name with the particle's persistent ID, giving each particle XForm a
unique name.

== Instancing/referencing ==

This exporter has experimental support for instancing/referencing.

Dupli-object meshes are now written to USD as references to the original
mesh. This is still very limited in correctness, as there are issues
referencing to materials from a referenced mesh.

I am still committing this, as it gives us a place to start when
continuing the quest for proper instancing in USD.

== Lights ==

USD does not directly support spot lights, so those aren't exported yet.
It's possible to add this in the future via the UsdLuxShapingAPI. The
units used for the light intensity are also still a bit of a mystery.

== Fluid vertex velocities ==

Currently only fluid simulations (not meshes in general) have explicit
vertex velocities. This is the most important case for exporting
velocities, though, as the baked mesh changes topology all the time, and
thus computing the velocities at import time in a post-processing step
is hard.
fsiddi pushed a commit to blender/blender that referenced this issue Dec 13, 2019
This commit introduces an exporter to Pixar's Universal Scene
Description (USD) format.

- The USD libraries are expected to be in /opt/usd/, not yet built by
  install_deps.sh. I'll work on that while this patch is under review.
- Only experimental support for instancing; by default all duplicated
  objects are made real in the USD file. This is fine for exporting a
  linked-in posed character, not so much for thousands of pebbles etc.
- This patch contains LazyDodo's fixes for building on Windows in D5359.

== Meshes ==

USD seems to support neither per-material nor per-face-group
double-sidedness, so we just use the flag from the first non-empty
material slot. If there is no material we default to double-sidedness.

Each UV map is stored on the mesh in a separate primvar. Materials can
refer to these UV maps, but this is not yet exported by Blender. The
primvar name is the same as the UV Map name. This is to allow the
standard name "st" for texture coordinates by naming the UV Map as such,
without having to guess which UV Map is the "standard" one.

Face-varying mesh normals are written to USD. When the mesh has custom
loop normals those are written. Otherwise the poly flag `ME_SMOOTH` is
inspected to determine the normals.

The UV maps and mesh normals take up a significant amount of space, so
exporting them is optional. They're still enabled by default, though.
For comparison: a shot of Spring (03_035_A) is 1.2 GiB when exported
with UVs and normals, and 262 MiB without. We probably have room for
optimisation of written UVs and normals.

The mesh subdivision scheme isn't using the default value 'Catmull
Clark', but uses 'None', indicating we're exporting a polygonal mesh.
This is necessary for USD to understand our normals; otherwise the mesh
is always rendered smooth. In the future we may want to expose this
choice of subdivision scheme to the user, or auto-detect it when we
actually support exporting pre-subdivision meshes.

A possible optimisation could be to inspect whether all polygons are
smooth or flat, and mark the USD mesh as such. This can be added when
needed.

== Animation ==

Mesh and transform animation are now written when passing
`animation=True` to the export operator. There is no inspection of
whether an object is actually animated or not; USD can handle
deduplication of static values for us.

The administration of which timecode to use for the export is left to
the file-format-specific concrete subclasses of
`AbstractHierarchyIterator`; the abstract iterator itself doesn't know
anything about the passage of time. This will allow subclasses for the
frame-based USD format and time-based Alembic format.

== support for simple preview materials ==

Very simple versions of the materials are now exported, using only the
viewport diffuse RGB, metallic, and roughness.

When there are multiple materials, the mesh faces are stored as geometry
subset and each material is assigned to the appropriate subset. If there
is only one material this is skipped.

The first material if any) is always applied to the mesh itself
(regardless of the existence of geometry subsets), because the Hydra
viewport doesn't support materials on subsets. See
PixarAnimationStudios/OpenUSD#542 for more info.

Note that the geometry subsets are not yet time-sampled, so it may break
when an animated mesh changes topology.

== Hair ==

Only the parent strands are exported, and only with a constant colour.
No UV coordinates, no information about the normals.

== Camera ==

Only perspective cameras are supported for now.

== Particles ==

Particles are only written when they are alive, which means that they
are always visible (there is currently no code that deals with marking
them as invisible outside their lifespan).

Particle-system-instanced objects are exported by suffixing the object
name with the particle's persistent ID, giving each particle XForm a
unique name.

== Instancing/referencing ==

This exporter has experimental support for instancing/referencing.

Dupli-object meshes are now written to USD as references to the original
mesh. This is still very limited in correctness, as there are issues
referencing to materials from a referenced mesh.

I am still committing this, as it gives us a place to start when
continuing the quest for proper instancing in USD.

== Lights ==

USD does not directly support spot lights, so those aren't exported yet.
It's possible to add this in the future via the UsdLuxShapingAPI. The
units used for the light intensity are also still a bit of a mystery.

== Fluid vertex velocities ==

Currently only fluid simulations (not meshes in general) have explicit
vertex velocities. This is the most important case for exporting
velocities, though, as the baked mesh changes topology all the time, and
thus computing the velocities at import time in a post-processing step
is hard.
fsiddi pushed a commit to blender/blender that referenced this issue Dec 13, 2019
This commit introduces the first version of an exporter to Pixar's
Universal Scene Description (USD) format.

Reviewed By: sergey, LazyDodo

Differential Revision: https://developer.blender.org/D6287

- The USD libraries are built by `make deps`, but not yet built by
  install_deps.sh.
- Only experimental support for instancing; by default all duplicated
  objects are made real in the USD file. This is fine for exporting a
  linked-in posed character, not so much for thousands of pebbles etc.
- The way materials and UV coordinates and Normals are exported is going
  to change soon.
- This patch contains LazyDodo's fixes for building on Windows in D5359.

== Meshes ==

USD seems to support neither per-material nor per-face-group
double-sidedness, so we just use the flag from the first non-empty
material slot. If there is no material we default to double-sidedness.

Each UV map is stored on the mesh in a separate primvar. Materials can
refer to these UV maps, but this is not yet exported by Blender. The
primvar name is the same as the UV Map name. This is to allow the
standard name "st" for texture coordinates by naming the UV Map as such,
without having to guess which UV Map is the "standard" one.

Face-varying mesh normals are written to USD. When the mesh has custom
loop normals those are written. Otherwise the poly flag `ME_SMOOTH` is
inspected to determine the normals.

The UV maps and mesh normals take up a significant amount of space, so
exporting them is optional. They're still enabled by default, though.
For comparison: a shot of Spring (03_035_A) is 1.2 GiB when exported
with UVs and normals, and 262 MiB without. We probably have room for
optimisation of written UVs and normals.

The mesh subdivision scheme isn't using the default value 'Catmull
Clark', but uses 'None', indicating we're exporting a polygonal mesh.
This is necessary for USD to understand our normals; otherwise the mesh
is always rendered smooth. In the future we may want to expose this
choice of subdivision scheme to the user, or auto-detect it when we
actually support exporting pre-subdivision meshes.

A possible optimisation could be to inspect whether all polygons are
smooth or flat, and mark the USD mesh as such. This can be added when
needed.

== Animation ==

Mesh and transform animation are now written when passing
`animation=True` to the export operator. There is no inspection of
whether an object is actually animated or not; USD can handle
deduplication of static values for us.

The administration of which timecode to use for the export is left to
the file-format-specific concrete subclasses of
`AbstractHierarchyIterator`; the abstract iterator itself doesn't know
anything about the passage of time. This will allow subclasses for the
frame-based USD format and time-based Alembic format.

== Support for simple preview materials ==

Very simple versions of the materials are now exported, using only the
viewport diffuse RGB, metallic, and roughness.

When there are multiple materials, the mesh faces are stored as geometry
subset and each material is assigned to the appropriate subset. If there
is only one material this is skipped.

The first material if any) is always applied to the mesh itself
(regardless of the existence of geometry subsets), because the Hydra
viewport doesn't support materials on subsets. See
PixarAnimationStudios/OpenUSD#542 for more info.

Note that the geometry subsets are not yet time-sampled, so it may break
when an animated mesh changes topology.

Materials are exported as a flat list under a top-level '/_materials'
namespace. This inhibits instancing of the objects using those
materials, so this is subject to change.

== Hair ==

Only the parent strands are exported, and only with a constant colour.
No UV coordinates, no information about the normals.

== Camera ==

Only perspective cameras are supported for now.

== Particles ==

Particles are only written when they are alive, which means that they
are always visible (there is currently no code that deals with marking
them as invisible outside their lifespan).

Particle-system-instanced objects are exported by suffixing the object
name with the particle's persistent ID, giving each particle XForm a
unique name.

== Instancing/referencing ==

This exporter has experimental support for instancing/referencing.

Dupli-object meshes are now written to USD as references to the original
mesh. This is still very limited in correctness, as there are issues
referencing to materials from a referenced mesh.

I am still committing this, as it gives us a place to start when
continuing the quest for proper instancing in USD.

== Lights ==

USD does not directly support spot lights, so those aren't exported yet.
It's possible to add this in the future via the UsdLuxShapingAPI. The
units used for the light intensity are also still a bit of a mystery.

== Fluid vertex velocities ==

Currently only fluid simulations (not meshes in general) have explicit
vertex velocities. This is the most important case for exporting
velocities, though, as the baked mesh changes topology all the time, and
thus computing the velocities at import time in a post-processing step
is hard.

== The Building Process ==

- USD is built as monolithic library, instead of 25 smaller libraries.
  We were linking all of them as 'whole archive' anyway, so this doesn't
  affect the final file size. It does, however, make life easier with
  respect to linking order, and handling upstream changes.
- The JSON files required by USD are installed into datafiles/usd; they
  are required on every platform. Set the `PXR_PATH_DEBUG` to any value
  to have the USD library print the paths it uses to find those files.
- USD is patched so that it finds the aforementioned JSON files in a path
  that we pass to it from Blender.
- USD is patched to have a `PXR_BUILD_USD_TOOLS` CMake option to disable
  building the tools in its `bin` directory. This is sent as a pull
  request at PixarAnimationStudios/OpenUSD#1048
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Just ran into this as well and noticed that while a number of viewers (including QuickLook) support this, usdview notably doesn't, making it harder to use it as "reference viewer" of sorts.

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spiffmon commented Jun 3, 2022 via email

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asluk commented Jun 3, 2022 via email

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hybridherbst commented Jun 3, 2022

Interesting, good to know –
we're on Windows, so using the convenient download from https://developer.nvidia.com/usd. Looking at the download date, that is certainly more than a year old now!

I guess this issue can be closed then –
and I'll have to start the frustrating hunt for an updated windows-usable USD version without the usual pains again... (unless there's a better one by now?)

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asluk commented Jun 3, 2022

Interesting, good to know – we're on Windows, so using the convenient download from https://developer.nvidia.com/usd. Looking at the download date, that is certainly more than a year old now!

I guess this issue can be closed then – and I'll have to start the frustrating hunt for an updated windows-usable USD version without the usual pains again... (unless there's a better one by now?)

I've provided @hybridherbst with v22.05 and v22.05a Windows builds for now while we at NVIDIA rework our packaging pipeline over the summer 🙏

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