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Growing PMGH to more users #983

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LeoBadeaux opened this issue May 20, 2021 · 33 comments
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Growing PMGH to more users #983

LeoBadeaux opened this issue May 20, 2021 · 33 comments
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Growing PMGH

Our repository literally had taken off with activity, but now we're only increasing in about 50-100 unique views each month. We need to expand to more users to complete our goal- we're 11% (11k PMGH users out of 100k Prodigy users) of the way there!

PMGH Website

I feel like if the PMGH website was recoded to be similar to the PMGH Wiki and had a lot of SEO changes, then appear higher in Google results, more people would find it, and I feel like we need something simpler than GitHub for an info source, considering everyone still doesn't understand how to hack. (common complaints are not understanding this repository)

Run ads on YT

You can reach 5k people with like $100. I have money that I can contribute to this. We can target visitors of prodigygame.com who don't visit this repo or our website.

@LeoBadeaux LeoBadeaux added the Enhancement New feature or request label May 20, 2021
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@BoredFishRE
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I know ads would be helpful, but we don't have $100 to spend. Hell, I'm barely keeping the VPS afloat.

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Also, were getting like 2-3k installs on the extension every day.

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SHeesh

@SakuraKitsunee
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@PatheticMustan or who ever is the formatting "Growing PMGH to more users" I can help with the YouTube part of it, I can do a sort of thing where I showcase the hacks to show them what to do. I will probably also on a different video, will show how do download the google chrome web store method and the developer mode method.

if there is any other things I can do to help with the YouTube part growing PMGH let me know and if it's possible I will!

@BoredFishRE
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We already manage the YouTube fine enough. It's not very important, we want to grow the Github, Extension, Discord, and Website.

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well is it okay if I showcase the hacks and put the links of the GitHub discord extension etc. or is there anything else you want/ can do?

@BoredFishRE
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You can make your own videos, just do the thing in the attributions in docs

@SakuraKitsunee
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okay got it!

@vibinyama
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Ads are effectively useless, "reaching 5k people" only shows the ad to 5k people, it by no means guarantees they will click or even see it; not to mention it counts even if they have an ad blocker on, so for about 100 dollars we will maybe get 100 people, which is incredibly bad compared to our current audience. Also, while some more SEO could be good on the website, the look/functionality of it is good.

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Ads are effectively useless, "reaching 5k people" only shows the ad to 5k people, it by no means guarantees they will click or even see it; not to mention it counts even if they have an ad blocker on, so for about 100 dollars we will maybe get 100 people, which is incredibly bad compared to our current audience. Also, while some more SEO could be good on the website, the look/functionality of it is good.

That actually makes a lot of sense
I guess ads aren't really the way to go, however, there are those bots that promote servers, so maybe we should go that route instead if we choose to advertise?

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Yeah all ads do is make impressions. Also, ads are very expensive. We would have a 50/50 chance that we would actually hit the audience that cared.

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or less

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SEO isn't really a must because we already come up first

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ArcerionDev commented May 23, 2021

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@LeoBadeaux
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I think they mean website SEO

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We have a good tiktok following, or atleast I'm working on it.

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um

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what is that platform

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oh

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do we really need tiktok

@LeoBadeaux
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Tiktok

@ArcerionDev
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yes I didn't read the bottom text

@LeoBadeaux
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more young people on tiktok that probably have prodigy at their school, so a big audience to find. Other people on tiktok have shown off hacks and have gained thousands of views.

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more young people on tiktok that probably have prodigy at their school, so a big audience to find. Other people on tiktok have shown off hacks and have gained thousands of views.

tiktok is blocked in most schools

@LeoBadeaux
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yes, but a lot of online students have access to it, and a lot of people have their own phones to use

@ArcerionDev
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yes, but a lot of online students have access to it, and a lot of people have their own phones to use

ok feel free to do it I just don't think it's needed

@LeoBadeaux
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I just made one video and we're gaining off of that mainly. I'll try to make more videos every now and then

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you can have a tiktok just make sure its clear its not an official account

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bmoser05 commented May 25, 2021

guys, schools usually block developer mode, and also the extension is blocked, to my extent of my knowledge

so they would need a home computer with extensions NOT blocked (regarding Family link by google if the children use a google account) to be able to install it, dev mode or the extension site

P.S. tiktok is blocked in my school, just checked on my school computer (because it says it's categorized as "forums.social_networking")

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LeoBadeaux commented May 25, 2021

The Blockage Issue

Yes, it is true, many schools block developer mode and/or have an extension whitelist which does not allow you to get our extension. We are well aware of this, and there isn't really anything we can do to prevent this from happening. Bookmarklets aren't possible to use for hacking prodigy so that's out of the bag. There aren't any known bypasses to developer mode restrictions or extension whitelist or blacklists, so there really isn't anything we can do about it.

Expansion

Since there is an issue with many schools not allowing students to download the extension, we are trying to expand to other platforms and create more methods to get the hacks, which is what this post is all about, and to market our product more so more people know about it. Right now there is an issue open that I am assigned to, to open support for mobile devices. I do believe we should come up with more methods for PC though, like I said, but there are no issues opened currently with any concepts in mind for those methods.

Promotion - Tiktok

The Tiktok account isn't mean't to be seen whilst at school, nobody even uses the web version of Tiktok anyways. The account is official by me since I do work here and am considered an owner of the organization permissions-wise. The Tiktok account isn't just used for promotion of the hacks, but also making sure people who post about the hacks on TIktok credit us properly. There are users on Tiktok posting videos flexing their hacks and the comments are asking how to do it, and the creator of the video won't tell, so the account will reply asking them to watch the latest video on the account to learn how to get the hacks. And the account offers support, allowing people to DM the account with their issue and I will try to help out, if I am unable to do so, I redirect them to our Discord server.

Promotion - Twitter

One possibility for getting ourselves out there is to create a Twitter account also. We could provide DM support in the Twitter account DMs, and announce new features and such on our Twitter. We could also implement some automation in the Twitter DMs with quick-replies using the Twitter API. I haven't done this but I'm leaving the possibility open out there for a fellow staff member to create an official account.

Conclusion

With the school year coming to an end and summer break approaching, we can work on these things above, and expand on the ideas. I am going to college this year as my last day of school is this Friday which is when I am graduating. While in college I probably won't be able to help out witht his as much as I usually do. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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da638 commented May 26, 2021

um i have a idea you can message me on this email do not use my email for any shading things da740092@gmail.com

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ghost commented Jun 2, 2021

How do I (who can't get any extensions) get PHEx on my Chromebook?
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lol

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