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ROM: non-constant soil temperature #1080

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PGorzalka opened this issue Feb 25, 2021 · 11 comments
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ROM: non-constant soil temperature #1080

PGorzalka opened this issue Feb 25, 2021 · 11 comments
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@PGorzalka
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PGorzalka commented Feb 25, 2021

What is the problem?

  • ROM thermal zone currently only supports constant values for TSoil ("Outdoor surface temperature for floor plate")
  • Validation of the model in a case study required using this value equivalent to weather data

How do we want to solve it? Describe the solution you'd like

  • Conditional in ZoneBaseRecord that causes a switch between the (default) constant value and a new port for TSoil, which is passed through Multizone
  • A time table of soil temperatures can be specified in the main model file

Additional context

This issue is related to a case-specific application of AixLib (ROM) and TEASER which also includes issue #679 in TEASER (others may follow after email consultations)

@LauraMaier
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@PGorzalka: Are you working or intend to work on this issue yourself? Otherwise, we will discuss it on hackday.

@PGorzalka
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@DaJansenGit already received some code from me that I intended to contribute here later this month. If he doesn't object, I think that would cover the issue.

@DaJansenGit DaJansenGit self-assigned this Oct 20, 2021
@DaJansenGit DaJansenGit added this to the Hackday 10.2021 milestone Oct 20, 2021
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@tobinfiedler
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@DaJansenGit @PGorzalka What is the current status of this issue?

@PGorzalka
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@tobinfiedler @DaJansenGit sorry I didn't come back to this; had other projects I was working on. However, as my PhD exam approaches it would be nice to have the code I wrote as part of the PhD project finally contributed here. That's the code mentioned in May last year. It covers several other topics, but this one could be a good starting point for the contribution. As it requires some extra work from my side (my fork of AixLib is pretty old): How urgently do you need it?

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The long delay here is on me. I still need to give your models a detailed look @PGorzalka. But since the review is also a more comprehensive change, it's still on my list. Maybe we can schedule a meeting in December to discuss the next steps? I will then have a look at the changes beforehand. Hard deadlines usually help at least on my side 😆

@FelixStege
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Any updates on this? @DaJansenGit @PGorzalka

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PGorzalka commented Feb 15, 2023

@FelixStege not yet. @DaJansenGit didn't manage to schedule a meeting last year... If you're working on the topic, maybe we could arrange one together?
My PhD thesis was delayed by RWTH-internal issues, but hopefully finish with the exam this year. So I still got the motivation mentioned above.

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DaJansenGit commented Mar 8, 2023

Discussion results

@PGorzalka and I had a discussion about the changes that makes sense. Following you can find the results.

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ThermalZone

  • Move soilt temperature calculation into a submodel that is placed in ThermalZone
  • We provide four options:
    • constant value (default and current state)
    • sinus curve
    • table
    • optional: EPW (energyplus) weather file which provides weekly? ground temperature data in header (these data might be removed from our weather conversion tool)
  • Changes due to interzonal heat transfer like the average temperature of soil and neighborhood zones (currently named addNZsAndSoil will be not implemented in this issue

ZoneParams

  • This requires additional parameters in zoneParam (not including weather file option)
    • amplitude for sinus curve
    • offset (but this might also be fixed)
    • table file reference

@PGorzalka
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Further notes on discussion results

  • EPW files provides ground properties and monthly average ground temperatures in variable depths. A definition can be found here.
  • additionally, envisaged contributions include
    • interzonal heat exchange (TEASER and AixLib)
    • custom template paths for Modelica output in TEASER (see issue 679 there)
    • a new possibility to estimate interior wall area

@DaJansenGit
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This was closed due a merge into IPBSA (ibpsa/modelica-ibpsa#1790)

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We will keep this open until the next IBPSA merge is done.

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