Tox for OS X: Looking for volunteers.

[ghost]

Hello everyone,

As we talk earlier on IRC, lot of clients (active and unmaintened) are not optimized for Yosemite (or even Mavericks) and as I believe in Tox I started the redesign of the OS X app.

The preview has been attached, feel free to suggest or criticize the design so I can fix it.

While I finish the design (video chat, call chat, settings, profile and eventually a lock screen). Is there somebody would volunteer to develop the application ? The app should be in Objective C to get all UI features and run smoothly.

Cheers !

[Jookia]

I feel that the chat bubble placement should be reversed (but I've heard a left-left design would work), but the biggest problem I feel are those connection bars. I don't know if they should be there when offline, and I'm not sure if the status of people is shown well enough.

[ghost]

Yes. Left-left design will be done for Linux and probably Windows but here is only to talk about the OS X app.

Let me explain about those bars:

• When the user is offline, the three dots are empty and gray. This mean there is no connection to this peer as the user is offline.
• When the user is connecting to the peer, the three dots are orange and there is some kind of animation like "1, 2, 3, 0, 1, 2, 3 dots"
• When the user is online, busy or absent, the dots are not visible because there is already the status.

[Jookia]

Having those dots for offline users is a waste of space (arguably), as they don't do anything. I can understand the dots only happening for connecting but for offline it would really annoy me unless I can hide them. I like uniform layouts, but that's just my taste.

[ghost]

Okay, I removed offline dots.

[dubslow]

Is there anyone currently involved who does Objective C or any OS X specific development?

[ghost]

Yes, @stqism started the development.

[stal888]

sean
able to write objective-c

kek

[stqism]

@stal888 I planned on blatantly stealing code from poison/deepend/utox like every other client.

[ghost]

+1 I think it's a good idea to mix the source code of those clients as long as it's stable so you don't have to reinvent the wheel :)

Le 30 nov. 2014 à 21:50, Sean notifications@github.com a écrit :

@stal888 I planned on blatantly stealing code from poison/deepend/utox like every other client.

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[ghost]

Mockup updated.

[halo]

This is one of the most beautiful GUI designs I've ever seen.

[ghost]

Hello,

Thanks :)

Don't hesitate to share this topic with all your friends as we are still looking for a nice Mac Developer :)

Regards,
S.

Le 3 mars 2015 à 08:06, halo notifications@github.com a écrit :

This is one of the most beautiful GUI designs I've ever seen.

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[urras]

Food for thought: http://xepler.com/afterhours/we-redesigned-tox-im-interface

@pwnsdx Adam, the person who created the mockup above, would probably be interested in collaborating :)

[ghost]

We need developers for this app. Not designers as I'm already one. Plus, Detox design looks less friendly and unprofessional.

[stal888]

@pwnsdx I agree. That mockup has no place on a desktop.

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On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:17, Sabri notifications@github.com wrote:

We need developers for this app. Not designers as I'm already one. Plus, Detox design looks unprofessional.

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[halo]

@stal888 I planned on blatantly stealing code from poison/deepend/utox like every other client.

Just curious, some of these clients are already written in Objective-C. Is the reason for this "starting from scratch for Yosemite" because those clients try to keep backwards compatibility too far back?

[ghost]

I didn't seen somewhere that it must be started from scratch

[onbjerg]

@pwnsdx Are you still alive?

[ghost]

Yes I am, thanks

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@pwnsdx Are you still alive?

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[onbjerg]

@pwnsdx What's happening to this project? It is the best mockup I have ever seen for a Tox client. The others are not very pleasing; the best we have is qTox.

[ghost]

As I said to someone who is name is Andreas :

Hello,

Thanks for supporting Tox OSX but unfortunately, the client did not find any developer so it's useless to work again on the design if no developer is going to make it real. For a few months I asked to a lot of people if they wanted to make the app, 0 were interested or had the time to develop it. If you (or anyone else) find a Obj-C or Swift developer who want to contribute then I will revive the project.

Regards,
S

Le 19 November 2015 à 14:17:48, onbjerg (notifications@github.com) a écrit:

@pwnsdx What's happening to this project? It is the best mockup I have ever seen for a Tox client. The others are not very pleasing; the best we have is qTox.

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[onbjerg]

@pwnsdx I would like to develop the application, but I would not like to dub it "Tox for OS X". I would like it to be cross-platform instead.

[ghost]

Sorry but Tox OS X was meant to be only available for OS X as qTox is extremely not Apple-friendly and to achieve the screenshot as closest as possible the app must be in Objective-C / Swift which is not cross platform. I also planned to make mockups of Tox for Windows and Tox for Linux so if you are interested you can start with Tox for OS X.

Regards,

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@pwnsdx I would like to develop the application, but I would not like to dub it "Tox for OS X". I would like it to be cross-platform instead.

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[onbjerg]

How come they have to be done in Swift / Objective-C to look like the mockup? And if you had planned for Windows and Linux as well, why not just make one cross-platform instead? I don't like qTox, and that is irregardless of what platform I am on. It's just a lot of maintenance and kinda counter-intuitive to make a seperate piece of software for every platform, "just because".

[stqism]

@onbjerg Do you understand what the word OS X in "Tox for OS X" means?

Why in christs name would something who's intended goal is to take advantage of OS Xisms and features run on Linux or Windows, ever?

[onbjerg]

@stqism I am just doing a brain dump here. I think the design is great, but it would be better if it was cross-platform. No need to be a huge dick. I understand perfectly what OS X is.

[phossc]

@onbjerg Different platforms require different design guidelines. The design of a cross platform GUI must sacrifice some of the features of each platform just because they don't work on all platforms. To acquire the native feeling of an application for OS X, which Tox OS X strives for, it is best if it is written in languages that can take advantage of the native libraries and all of their features.

[onbjerg]

@phossc Got it, thanks.