Lcaron, lcaron, dcaron, should use the alternate caron

[vv-monsalve]

[josescaglione]

no @vv-monsalve , the models we are following for Czechia and Slovakia require a two-stroke caron. It is a special (alternate) design as well

[vv-monsalve]

I see. Nevertheless, it's currently encoded to the main version of the glyph (013D and 012E) and not as an alternate.

Given the fonts can be used in other scenarios different from the intended (in this case, used for other purposes different from teaching), do you think this shape can be treated as an alternate? Or at least include compound glyphs with the standard alternate to make them available for other users/uses?

[josescaglione]

right, that is the shape those glyphs should look like in Czechia and Slovakia. When/if we find a model that requires a single line caron we will have to create it and add as a local or regional variant.

Please let me know if you need me to clarify.

[vv-monsalve]

When/if we find a model that requires a single line caron we will have to create it and add as a local or regional variant.

I would advocate for the opposite. Taking into consideration that fonts can (and will) be used by standard users apart from the educators, to include the single line caron (ideally as the default) and then make the Czechia and Slovakia model an alternate as a local or regional variant, making it the default only for those models.

[josescaglione]

Please clarify:

Do you want us to have
a single line caron.alt in all of the fonts for countries and languages that do not use a caron at all

but
A two-line caron.alt for the families for Czechia and Slovakia, the only countries that require a caron

I would normally deal with this at a stylistic set level. In reality, all of the use for the caron will happen in those two countries.

[josescaglione]

Sorry, just to clarify. The single line caron shape is in the font file already, this is just a matter of access to it we are discussing

[vv-monsalve]

this is just a matter of access to it we are discussing

Indeed. After pulling the latest files in the lang-build branch at commit 38897c5c and searching for the Lcaron lcaron and dcaron glyphs in the glyphs source file, the composite glyphs mapped to the 013D, 013E and 010F are using the two-lines caron.





The caroncomb.alt_locl does exist but currently is not used by any composite glyph.

The idea would be to make the single-line caron the default shape so that any user (apart from teachers) using the font for any other purpose (beyond teaching) would receive the "standard" or expected single-line caron. And making the two-lines caron a localized version for Czechia and Slovakia.

E.g. ARG model

[vv-monsalve]

Otoh, for the CZE and SVK models using the two-line caron, some possible glyph combinations (according to Context of Diacritics) need to be solved.

SVK model

CZE model

[vv-monsalve]

This looks ok for the most of the fonts at commit 1b4d055. However, looks like is not working for the SVK model, where the two-lines caron is expected as default.

@josescaglione please confirm everything is as intended.

ARG model

CZE model

SVK model

[casasin]

SVK should be fixed at 23d4a217

[vv-monsalve]

SVK is solved in 23d4a217f