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Status suffixes in the Mayan languages #781
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If I have understood welI, I would personally fully agree with the interpretation as an auxiliary (meaning both
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I originally had that, but the issue is that if you have something like TV DIR SS then the SS is selected for the intransitive not for the transitive. So it's clear that the directional is governing it.
It is not a functional element according to my understanding.
No morphological features, although potentially there could be a |
Are these suffixes ever written separately? I briefly looked at ik in the data and it seems to me that it is always cut off the verb using the MWT mechanism. I feel uncomfortable about cutting a suffix off a verb, only to attach it as an auxiliary in the next step. One could propose to do that with inflectional suffixes in hundreds of other languages, but UD does not focus on relation between individual morphemes. (The tokenization guidelines say: "The UD annotation is based on a lexicalist view of syntax, which means that dependency relations hold between words. [...] there is no attempt at segmenting words into morphemes.") Instead, I would keep it with the verb as one word ("do not segment unless you really have to"), and reflect it using language-specific features: If the directional has the suffix, the features would go with the directional. Annotating the directional as |
In K'iche' at least they are written together. The reason I went for this strategy is that they appear both on verbs and these directionals, also it's not clear exactly what they are.
The disadvantage with that is that it makes searching harder (at the moment it's easy to search for "all verbs with a dependent that has the lemma ik". In addition the value of
I'm not sure about this. They don't have any valency, so I'd prefer to not have them as verbs. It is a small and finite set. |
In an effort to appease the validator before the release deadline I've changed |
If it's not clear then it is safer not to make them words (there will be fewer things that we must say about them) :-)
So if the directionals are marked somehow (which I think would be nice in any case), it would now be searching for "all verbs that have particular features, or a directional dependent with such features. That does not look difficult – I do similar searches all the time.
Ah, yes. So if we need (or want) to annotate also the root
Okay, not a big deal. They can be a special type of adverbs as well ( |
If these elements are in any sense adverbial directionals and they retain a "full-word status", then I think that the relation to go is
I am not sure if I understand what is happening here, but now I am curious 🙂 Do you mean that tzaq is basically transitive, and the directional makes it intransitive as we see in the example, and thus can select the ik suffix? |
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Not quite, but let's take a few examples:
So in (1) it's a transitive verb with both subject and object agreement and an expressed subject and object. It could equally well be Kakitiko Ka-ø-ki-tik-o "[They] sew [it]". In (2) the verb has been antipassivised which means the object agreement is omitted, any object would need to be introduced with an oblique. In (3) the verb is antipassivised as before but the subject is left unspecified which leaves the verb at a phrase boundary and thus the status suffix (note intransitive -ik not transitive -o) appears. |
In some ways I agree and in some I disagree. I wanted to avoid the
The problem is that now in order to search for something you have to remember and type in 3 features instead of just 1 lemma, e.g. ik or
I don't like this for some reason. I do and do want to include the transitivity, in any language with polypersonal agreement it is a core part of the grammar.
Agree, this is how it is done at the moment. |
Status suffixes are a particular feature of the Mayan languages. These are suffixes that appear on verbs (and directionals which historically come from verbs). The particular status suffix a verb bears is conditioned by an amalgamation of morphosyntactic facts about the clause, including:
A verb has dependent status if it is volitive (imperative, optative, hortative) or if it incorporates movement.
In K’iche’ there are four status suffixes:
In this example, the directional, itself derived from a verb, bears the status suffix -ik. This indicates that:
The main verb tzaq ‘fall’ does not bear its own status suffix because, in K’iche’, these suffixes only appear at the edges of certain prosodic phrases. These is no such phrase break between the verb and directional, and so only the latter bears the status suffix.
I would like to propose analysing these status suffixes as
aux
, as they are function words which accompany the verb and express/contribute to aspect and mood. For instance, swapping the -ik and -oq status suffixes on an intransitive verb (in certain aspects) is enough to change the interpretation from conditional to imperative.The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: