[CS 1.6 Beta build 5961] interpolation of models

[AndreiRomania]

removing ex_interp 0.1 as default and making ex_interp 0.01 default and along with cl_cmdrate 101 and cl_updaterate 101 to match ex_interp 0.01 for corectly placing the HITBOX stickman with the model layout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3gvnQ7qenY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3avJ6ylbflU

[ghost]

again whit those 101 myth`s

[konschta]

There is a discussion about this topic in issue #395 - [HL1/CS] Automatically set ex_interp to the correct value.

[ghost]

@kirvs I totally agree.
@AndreiRomania 101/101/0.01 are not the best values you can play with. also 101 is totally bullshit

[MaximilianKohler]

What are the best values than? I think that the point is that the best values should be default and set automatically.

[ghost]

It really depends on many things but especially on the server load and numbers of players. Also everyone has a different connection/bandwidth to the server and so on.

Those 101 values are myth's, they are capped at 100 by the engine. Also I don't like to play with an ex_interp of 1/cl_updaterate. I'll lag with such an interp. I usually do 2/cl_updaterate or 1/cl_updaterate + 0.01

Finally there are many myth's about netsettings. According to my experience I deal with it at the best with a toggle :)

[MaximilianKohler]

It was said in another thread that updaterate is capped at 102 and cmdrate isn't capped at all.

[ghost]

Well I used wrong phrases. I mean higher than 100 is unnecessary and makes no sense actually :) However, the thing is everyone will experience other rates as the best :)

[AndreiRomania]

Leon291 -> with ex_interp 0.01 cl_cmdrate 101 cl_updaterate 101
My gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJrgzA7JvEA

[ghost]

And? What do you want to say with it? Try 100, 100 its the same ;) but as I said its not the point where the cap is. The point is many users can't play with 100, 100 or 101, 101 like you ^^

[Antoweif]

The correct value for cl_cmdrate is "FPS+5". Also, cl_cmdrate is capped by FPS, but there is an ultimate limit. cl_rate 20000 (which is removed now) and defaulted at 20000. Somewhere above 160 updates and you'll need more allowed bandwidth. Again, it's capped at 20000 (cl_rate) internally.
Just set cl_cmdrate 1000 and let the engine do the talking, unless you have limited bandwidth, which would be an incredible feat considering how old this game is.

@leon291, more than 100 updates makes perfect sense if you want to boost your client on servers that allow it. Check out #350 ;)

[ghost]

@Antoweif cl_rate was replaced with rate command. And it's set to 30000 by default, and limited to 100 000

[Antoweif]

@Maxkorz No, cl_rate determined upload rate in CS1.6. rate controlled download.
Why was rate limit increased to 100000 anyway? The game doesn't need more than 20000, because cl_updaterate is limited to 102. I don't get the logic.

[ghost]

@Antoweif where did you get that? http://steamcommunity.com/games/70/announcements/detail/1028214575930748973
Removed cl_rate command, "rate" is the appropriate command to use
I think they were the same commands

[Antoweif]

I have tested it. I know why everyone says what you say, but I have tested it. I wanted to use cl_cmdbackup 105, but was unable to, because of a rate limit. I figured out it was cl_rate's fault.

[ghost]

@Antoweif ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux#1623 (comment)
And why would you set cl_cmdbackup to 105? As far as I know, it determines the amount of information that helps to recovery sent packets on poor connection

[AndreiRomania]

Stay on topic pls this is about the ex_interp witch should be 0.01

[ghost]

ex_interp is part of the net settings as long as the other values 👅

fps + 5 o.O ???

There are too many myths :D How about to lock it on your fps? 1 frame, 1 package send/received

[ghost]

I think cl_cmdrate = fps_max + 5 is a real deal. Check this:
http://s020.radikal.ru/i709/1302/9c/8cfdd4a34f26.bmp
http://s019.radikal.ru/i619/1302/54/eee270a8828a.bmp
http://s001.radikal.ru/i195/1302/fc/218fd42323ff.bmp
http://s019.radikal.ru/i619/1302/91/87b30f4d8ce3.bmp
cmdrate 105 with 100 fps makes the connection very stable (you can see two float lines)

[Antoweif]

@Maxkorz, haha I used cmdbackup because I really thought it would help me perform better in my younger days!