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CC BY 3.0 license is incorrectly reported as not fulfilling the libre license criterion #4932

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akien-mga opened this issue Nov 28, 2020 · 7 comments
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akien-mga commented Nov 28, 2020

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I'm being notified that my godot-engine/godot-docs component on Hosted Weblate (https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/godot-engine/godot-docs/) using Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license (CC BY 3.0), matching the original documentation that is being translated, is not using a libre license.

What are the criteria used to define what licenses are libre? IMO CC-BY is a well established libre license for non-software content.

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There's nothing I can do, the license has been used for both the source content and the translations for many years, I can't change it without consent for all contributors as we don't use a CLA.
I also don't see a reason to change it (if I could I'd bump the version to "CC BY 4.0 International", but that's about it).

  • I've read and searched the docs and did not find the answer there.
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Steps to reproduce the behavior:

  1. Go to https://hosted.weblate.org/guide/godot-engine/godot-docs/
  2. See warning on unmet conditions to fit into libre software hosting conditions: "Make your translations available under a libre license."
  3. The configured license is CC BY 3.0 Unported, like the source strings: https://github.com/godotengine/godot-docs/blob/master/LICENSE.txt

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CC BY 3.0 Unported (and other CC BY, CC BY-SA, and CC0 versions) should be considered libre.

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On Hosted Weblate.

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nijel commented Nov 28, 2020

We currently rely on SPDX on this and only CC-BY-4.0 is marked there as FSF Free/Libre.

Fedora guidelines on documentation licensing

It mentions only version 4.0. On the other side, Debian has 3.0...

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Hm, that's a bummer. I'll see with our legal counsel if there's anyway we can easily upgrade to CC BY 4.0.

SPDX bases its assessment on the FSF's, which doesn't mention anything about earlier versions: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#OtherLicenses
They only mention CC-BY-4.0 as there's indeed no reason to use an earlier version, but there's no argumentation on why CC-BY-3.0 or earlier would actually be nonfree.

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Generally speaking though I don't think that SPDX's listing is the most reliable on to assess the license of content which can be licensed like documentation instead of like software. While the FSF does talk about documentation and other non-software work, this is a very late addition to their guidelines (2015) and they've historically had an ambiguous relationship to non-software licensing terms.

The other source that SPDX relies on, the OSI-approved licenses, is also focused solely on software and doesn't include any Creative Commons license.

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nijel commented Nov 28, 2020

There are more licenses which status is questionable in SPDX - for example Beerware is also not marked as libre. We used to check licenses manually in the past, but that doesn't scale and the only useable source for this I found was SPDX. We might need to add some exceptions...

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Thanks @nijel!

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