Working with Fastners Workbench

[leoheck]

With the fasteners workbench, it is possible to click at the hole then it is going to add the faster for me at that place.

Now, how should I work with the fasteners that are in the Assembly4 toolbar?
Should I make the Yellow body? Should I create LCS on every place I want to place a screw?
This is going to increase a lot the number of operations, especially if I have a lot of screws.

Assembly4 could have a faster way to add the screws as Fasterners Workbench does.
Or maybe I am missing something.

[Zolko-123]

You can use fasteners from the Fasteners WB directly if you prefer, they are in Asm4 only for convenience.

Unfortunately, the Fasteners WB doesn't recognize inserted objects/parts by links (App::Link) correctly, therefore you will not be able to attach a fastener to a hole in a child part of the assembly.

The workflow to use fasteners inside the Asm4 WB is to select the hole edge you want to attach-to, create a "Hole Axis" feature (which is actually a datum line), and then use the "place part" button to attach the fastener to that hole axis feature. Yes, it's a little cumbersome, not as practical as what the Fastener WB does, but at least it can treat linked objects (which Fasteners WB can't)

Now, by playing with it to demonstrate, I realise that when selecting a "hole axis" feature, the fastener should be directly attached to it, instead of having to go through all the hoops. I'll try to improve this

[leoheck]

Interesting, thank you.

Is there a place where this workflow is shown for me and for the other users?

The README.md has a bunch of info that is useless like Release Notes, that don't have to be there, for instance.

Maybe a demo showing how this workflow works would be a good idea.

Ah, the Release notes can be put in a file itself and named Changelog.md, maybe. You can link this file in the README.md too.

[Zolko-123]

Good ideas here. If you have the time, may-be could-you propose these modifications in a PR ?

[leoheck]

Indeed. #333

[leoheck]

Now, by playing with it to demonstrate, I realise that when selecting a "hole axis" feature, the fastener should be directly attached to it, instead of having to go through all the hoops. I'll try to improve this

Nice. I was trying to replicate this workflow here but I am not sure if I have to put a screw inside the Yellow Body. I would like to take advantage of that so I won't have duplicated parts.

[leoheck]

Talking about this workflow.

Should the fastener be put inside the Yellow Body too? I am doing that.

When I place those Hole Axis, they go inside the Blue Body, I could not keep them at the same level as the LCS. Is this expected?

I could also create these "Hole Axis (datum lines)" but they don't appear in the Place Linked Part in the tasks view. Should they appear there?

Could you share a small demo?

This is a demo that a user shared with me in the Freecad Forum. But this is not the way you are describing here, I think.
However, you could use this easily the workflow described here.
https://forum.freecadweb.org/download/file.php?id=198783

[leoheck]

This is my finished model. I am not using the above workflow.
I would, but I could not understand it completely, yet.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai0cjb8zmgzbsfi/peephole-v0.2.2.FCStd?dl=0

[Zolko-123]

Issues are for reporting problems, not for general questions or help requests. Please use the FreeCAD forum :

https://forum.freecadweb.org/index.php

[leoheck]

Sorry mate. I cannot use Freecad Forum. Have a good day.

[leoheck]

The workflow to use fasteners inside the Asm4 WB is to select the hole edge you want to attach-to, create a "Hole Axis" feature (which is actually a datum line), and then use the "place part" button to attach the fastener to that hole axis feature. Yes, it's a little cumbersome, not as practical as what the Fastener WB does, but at least it can treat linked objects (which Fasteners WB can't)

@Zolko-123 , I could not reproduce your workflow for adding fasteners. (Actually, now, I am writing this report, I am being able to do it since I am creating the screw on step 0, and also because you updated Asm4 to version 0.12.4 fixes an issue with the screw creation, and also maybe because now I am seeing the HoleAxis in the Parent LCS's list in the PLaced Linked Part window)

I am doing the following steps:
0. Create a Fastener using the button in the Assembly4 toolbar (this was not mentioned above, I am not sure it is right)

1. Select a Hole Edge
2. Create the "Hole Axis"
3. "Place Part" selecting the Fastener created in step 0.
4. Then select the Hole Axis in the Parent LCS list

If I can ask for a feature or give you a suggestion to improve Fasteners placement would be to allow placing multiples at the same time. Most of the time, when placing a Fastener, we do more than one at the same time. So, it would be helpful if we could select multiple HoleAxis during this process.

For instance, the following link shows the 4 Hole Axis to fix a PCB in a plastic housing. It would be awesome to speed up this by selecting all of those HoleAxis at once.

This is my design