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[rich-howell]

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I think it would be a good idea to inform people of this https://community.fly.io/t/we-are-going-to-start-charging-for-dedicated-ipv4-in-january-1st/15970 because this comment on the docs page for Actual If you follow the steps in this guide, you will remain well within the free plan limits. For more details, check out [Fly’s pricing documentation](https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/) is no longer true.

Documentation URL

https://actualbudget.org/docs/install/fly

[tjex]

Although, it does say for new apps, that no unexpected charges will be had.

New apps have been getting shared IPv4 when first deployed for a while, your new apps should be good to go with no unexpected charges. Also, just creating an app doesn’t assign IPs immediately.

Also on the fly pricing site:

Each application receives a shared IPv4 address and unlimited Anycast IPv6 addresses for global load balancing.

Dedicated IPv4 addresses are $2/mo.

As the install/fly doc is for new setups, and it appears like new apps will get a shared ipv4 (free of charge), maybe it doesn't need to change?

[tjex]

And actually, my fly instance, made last year, already has a shared ipv4.
So yeah, it seems like the news is about dedicated ipv4 that will now cost, but that used to be free? 🧐

Or am I missunderstanding / overlooking something?

[tjfinlinson]

This probably just need a little bit of clarification on the docs page and making sure it's in alignment with what fly.io says about it.

[bruno-cobucci]

As someone who is coming to Actual, I also felt confused when reading the docs. The thing is, there used to be a free plan in Fly.io - that's even written in the docs:

If you follow the steps in this guide, you will remain well within the free plan limits.

But, in a recent change, there's no more a free plan. The default, start plan is the "Hobby plan", which costs a minimum of $5/month. See this discussion, for example.

Maybe the docs should be updated to adress this change in Fly.io. Specially considering that this error is in the main "Installing Actual" section.

[tjex]

It should be updated, I agree. I'll start looking at addressing this.

But it's still technically "free" for the use case of Actual. As the initial sign up gets you $5 credit given to you (not debited), and is only used up when you exceed the free allowances.

https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/#new-customers:

When you sign up for a Fly.io account, we create a default (“personal”) organization for you, which receives a one-time $5 sign-up credit to let you test-drive Fly.io at no cost. This organization’s $5/month Hobby plan subscription does not start until the credit has been used up. Usage that falls outside of our free resource allowances consumes your sign-up credit.

Resources included for free on all plans:

• Up to 3 shared-cpu-1x 256mb VMs
• 3GB persistent volume storage (total)
• 160GB outbound data transfer

Additional resources are billed at the usage-based pricing detailed below.

[tjex]

I've commented in the fly.io thread asking for clarification. I'll make a pr for an interim addition to the documentation until this gets clarified, to avoid any new users of Fly getting stung with a $5 debit.

[tjex]

Fly answered my question on the forum, and it does cost now $5 per month as a base fee. I've updated the PR #311 to reflect this.