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Proposing a discussion on Accessibility in Data Science - potential for new chapters? guide? #2730
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Tagging @AndreaSanchezTapia and @LizHareDogs for their help with the landing page. Alt text chapter can be one of them, some previous issues where some links were shared: |
This looks great and I'm looking forward to the Bookdash and collaborating with everyone. I'm curious about what you all think about what falls under "accessibility." I've seen it used in two ways in this context. It can refer to the kinds of accessibility practices that we use specifically related to disability. examples are captioning, alt text, andensuring that contrast and size are usable for people with low vision. There are other things that we do to be inclusive and enhance participation in things, like making sure that folks with older computers and lower bandwidth have access. In some contexts, this falls under "accessibility" and in others It would be helpful to know which scope we are talking about here as I think about resources to bring to this writing project. I think it's all important, but I'm not sure which were talking about because I am a newbie to the Turing Way, a USian, and the impact accessibility has on me personally. |
inclusionResources.md |
Hi, @LizHareDogs and @aleesteele , I made a push with a markdown file in the accessibility-guide branch: https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/tree/accessibility-guide - It's failing all the tests but we can check everything tomorrow. The landing page would be here and it's very preliminary, but it's based on what we have discussed: |
The link for the commit is here: fc17a31 |
Tagging Tom @tv074563, Jess @jo77419, and Sam @sspillard. As a follow-up, we will be planning a 1-day book dash to work on this - planning will begin in February with the onboarding of a new team member in the project. |
Thanks for tagging us in, we've been thinking about potential topics and structure. We found it difficult to design the overall structure so have produced a list of topics as a starting point that we think could be overall chapters/sections as follows:
I've included a few of the suggestions from our last meeting. It'd be good to decide on a rough outline as that would make it easier to add things in. This isn't supposed to be complete by any means and we're very much hoping there will be other suggestions for what to include. On the question above of whether we're interested in accessibility practices related to disability or inclusion, I feel like it's potentially both although as a broader topic some aspects of inclusion may be out of scope for the guide. We'd like this to be a practical guide for Data Scientists to easily find relevant guidance for whatever they're aiming to do, so that should probably influence the overall structure. It would be great to talk about this further, maybe at the next book dash? |
Hello all - issue lurker here sharing my 2c.
Thanks for raising this question @LizHareDogs. The access-centred term better reflects that the end goal is disability justice and inclusion and implies a radical approach centred around intersectional access. At the same time, accessibility is a practice that falls under that access-centred umbrella and serves as a foundation to build upon. See Access-centred movement for more details https://accesscenteredmovement.com/what-access-centered-means/ Now onto the topics
Some of us (colleagues and I) have been working on these topics. For the last few months, we have been conducting user research/testing with the disabled scientific community. Some of the outputs of this work are authoring guidelines for accessible notebooks. This sounds very much in line with this - so I'd like to explore ways to reuse/collaborate rather than duplicate content (thinking about sustainability and best practices alignment). |
@trallard Thanks for bringing this up. I had not come across this term before but I think this will actually reduce the confusion and 'specific notion' around what accessibility means. I had been largely thinking about accessibility/Access-centred chapters in terms of these three areas:
These can broadly cover different elements of EDI principles as well as support structures (funding/grants, tools, guidelines, etc.). |
Based on a discussion with @LizHareDogs yesterday I went through the book to see where we could link the Accessibility Guide with existing content. My suggestions for the Guide for Reproducible Research are probably more extensive because there is more content and I'm more familiar with it. Guide for Reproducible Research
Project Design
Guide for communication
Guide for collaborationAgain, probably everywhere a mention/link. Exceptions could be
Ethical Research
Community Handbook
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These are great!
I do think there is room for some comment on accessibility when talking about git and particularly GitHub. GitHub is difficult to navigate for *everybody* whether using a screen reader of not. For people who are used to using the command line, it's a way better way to interact with your repo than navigating the complex screen.
Accessibility is always enhanced when there is more than one way to do something.
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There could be a chapter under Communication on teaching data science/technical skills to people with no/little IT knowledge, for example medical doctors who want to do their own analysis. At universities there is definitely a high demand of basic data/IT capacity, yet some (or many) universities don't seem to invest enough in training programs in their curriculum. The format of The Carpentries is great, and there should be more (only a few sessions per year, long waiting list). I think education and training is very important for reproducible research but unfortunately has been overlooked. I can help with this chapter (on teaching) if we decide to write one. |
Hi and thanks for this terrific idea! I used to work in human psychiatric genetics and I agree!
One point I'd like to make at the intersection with sensory disability is that instruction should be IDE-agnostic because, for example RStudio/Posit is not screen reader accessible.
(* Yes, I know they are advertising that it is "more accessible" now but I've seen no evidence of usability).
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There could be a chapter under Communication on teaching data science/technical skills to people with no/little IT knowledge, for example medical doctors who want to do their own analysis. At universities there is definitely a high demand of basic data/IT capacity, yet some (or many) universities don't seem to invest enough in training programs in their curriculum.
The format of The Carpentries is great, and there should be more (only a few sessions per year, long waiting list). I think education and training is very important for reproducible research but unfortunately has been overlooked.
I can help with this chapter (on teaching) if we decide to write one.
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Hi all, I'm looking at the HackMD mentioned above. I'm sorry I'm unable to edit HackMD documents. The first paragraph, with its focused on "impairments" and "needs" is not written from a disability rights perspective. The focus on impairment is related to the deficit model of disability. https://dsq-sds.org/article/view/5236/4475 The Deaf community, in particular, rejects being called "hearing impaired." Framing disabled people as "needy" isn't helpful. The community "needs" to be open to everyone. |
Hi all, just flagging that this draft was reviewed with @LizHareDogs and Laura Ascenzi at Metadocencia. We are reviewing the HackMD both in this document: https://hackmd.io/C-LCbjSOQrmEcQl4zlKy-Q?both |
Oh thank you for the pad link!
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Hi all, just flagging that this draft was reviewed with @LizHareDogs <https://github.com/LizHareDogs> and Laura Ascenzi at Metadocencia.
We are reviewing the HackMD both in this document: https://hackmd.io/C-LCbjSOQrmEcQl4zlKy-Q?both <https://hackmd.io/C-LCbjSOQrmEcQl4zlKy-Q?both>
as well as this pad: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/ttw-guide-accessibility-draft <https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/ttw-guide-accessibility-draft>
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Notes from Tania and Malvika:
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Hi Malvika and Tania,
Thanks for providing lots of context. I wanted to expand on this:
Contextualise by Research lifecycle - at what stage of research cycle are we talking about access
All stages! Open should mean open for everyone. This means that when we collaborate to do research, we make sure to have inclusive planning, tools, and interpersonal environment from a planning a project through communicating it to the public.
Scientiests with disabilities are not particularly visible, but we are here. We are not just end consumers.
Also, building accessibility into communications and tools from the start means less effort in the long run. Retrofitting or adapting for access is more costly and time consuming.
So I don't think access is limited to a stage.
Liz
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Notes from Tania and Malvika:
Guide to Access over 'accessibility' will allow broader coverage of concepts and practices
Content of chapters may include signposting
Contextualise by Research lifecycle - at what stage of research cycle are we talking about access
Provide stakeholder type: who is this 'work' serving --> who is engaging (user, contributors, maintainers, end users, citizen etc.)
Provide what type of access is this about: Digital, physical, hybrid?
Who takes the responsibility for access? - developer, users, leaders, teams (ideally all)
Turing Way has many accessibility related chapters but they are not findable if people don't specifically look for it
Many projects exists outside the Turing Way but maybe hard to contextualise for Data Science as people care about specific problem in hand
The Turing Way handbook and Jupyter (jupyter/accessibility#127 <jupyter/accessibility#127> - such as the Authoring guide) has many info that can be generalised and shared for general purpose
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Hi Liz I very much agree - think there was some missing context on that particular point. By adding "stage" tags we thought of a way of signaling the "optimal" stage at which a given access tasks/effort should be considered. (my ideal is right at the beginning or planning stage but it is not always possible). For example - adding alt text to your documentation the ideal point to do this would be right when you are writing the content or adding a new image. Rather than being used as a way to signal at which point people would need access (because I agree, folks need access at all times). |
Thanks for adding the context Tania. |
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Hi folks, I'm getting started with this to discuss the landing page with the accessibility working group later today! @LizHareDogs @AndreaSanchezTapia - bringing back the |
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