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Dave, thanks for starting a discussion! I also noticed that there had been some posts (Stephen Waters). I am assuming that some people are using Electric Drummer to post to their Old School blogs. I remember that Anton Zuiker had been experimenting with posting from Electric Drummer, but it always seemed problematic if you were going to continue using the web-based Drummer. I have a copy of Electric Drummer for Windows, but have not done anything with it. As for the community aspect (Old School Drummers River), it is very important to me. It is also important to have it be independent of Dave Winer (except for the dependency of having Old School working in Drummer). I had a negative experience on FeedLand where I posted something to the "user feeds" that Dave did not like (I compared the "User Feeds view" feature to the Old School Drummers river), and he removed my posts from that view and let everyone know there were "Comment Guidelines". What's up with that? As a result, I started work on my own microblogging tool, and will be posting an announcement on my main WordPress blog today about that accomplishment. To me, this is a good time to reflect on blogging community. Some people are moving from Twitter to Mastodon. I find it hard to follow the flow on Twitter and Mastodon, so I create river of news apps where I aggregate the feeds for the people I am interested in following. This is much better for me. Similarly, the Old School Drummers river was an attempt to create an easy way for people to stay up on what other Old School Drummers were posting, without all of us having to add a list of feeds to our own readers. I feel it has helped me to stay on on the pulse of the community, and I plan to keep it going. Where I am going with this last paragraph is this - community is important, and there is nothing stopping communities from forming (this repo is an example). What is needed is reaching out to others to form and maintain and sustain that community. It is also not required that people only use Old School to post to a community (my microblogging tool allows people to follow anyone posting with a tool supporting rssCloud support (unfortunately, that is mostly Dave Winer tools, but I am working on a plan for that). I would be interested to hear from other Drummer/Old School users on this topic. |
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David, just saw that you posted something about this on FeedLand, wait and see if it gets deleted.... |
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I've just been on a trip down "memory drummer lane" and remembered enjoying using it. However, I'm not coming back. I'd use it if I knew that I could host it myself (or anyone who was interested could) and continue using it should the creator change their mind and stop wanting to support or host it. It would be nice if the creator would let people, who can, help with the actual code. If someone wants a new feature and can write it themselves, let them! We'd all benefit. It would share the burden of maintenance. Maybe it is all open source and I've not spent enough time to figure out all the pieces and put them together. I just get the impression that some of it is on github, but maybe not the latest, and I'm not sure the frontend is there at all. My view is that this isn't a business for him, so why not put it up for all to see and help. You don't have to write a step by step procedure for setting it all up, but let others package it into docker or fix bugs or add new auth methods etc. For now I'm on static site generators. They're more work but I take comfort that they'll be around for a long time. I can't be bothered with drama or social media, and just want a place to write stuff. |
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If you have ideas for new commands in Drummer, it has built in JavaScript support. Here are docs.. |
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Time for a little gathering? I wonder if the temporary suspension of Drummer could give impetus to this place reviving.
What got me back here is observing that the Old School Drummers Reading List has updates even as Drummer is suspended temporarily, so some people are updating their Drummer blogs even though I thought I couldn't. Very clear sign I don't actually understand things. I'd love to hear how people are doing it.
What else does this breather mean to people? Even before the Twitter crumble I was wondering how not to be dependent on Dave's continued good health (which I wish him always). But I like the little group who I find in the Drummer neighborhood, and now have a taste of how fragile it is.
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