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Linux? #2

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romulasry opened this issue Jun 4, 2023 · 1,060 comments
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Linux? #2

romulasry opened this issue Jun 4, 2023 · 1,060 comments

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@romulasry
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https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-Ryzen-AI-Open-Source-Demo
AMD Has Open-Source Ryzen AI Demo Code - But Only For Windows

@stalkerg
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stalkerg commented Jun 4, 2023

It's not fully open-source, even for windows - many libs are binary only. They basically open-source UI and API to the model.

@GreyXor
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GreyXor commented Jun 4, 2023

It's not fully open-source, even for windows - many libs are binary only. They basically open-source UI and API to the model.

This is how a story gets off to a bad start.
Providing this support would ensure seamless integration with the Linux ecosystem, promoting open interoperability and enabling users to maximize the potential of AMD's AI technologies. Embracing Linux would not only expand your user base but also foster a more inclusive and collaborative technological environment.

Not being jailed at Microsoft shouldn't even be a debate.

@grigio
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grigio commented Jun 5, 2023

AMD is losing the Linux guys https://youtu.be/Mr0rWJhv9jU

@MrDrMcCoy
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AMD is losing the Linux guys https://youtu.be/Mr0rWJhv9jU

Dunno about anyone else, but I don't have 5.5 hours to burn on a random YouTube video.

@nospace-here
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Not sure why this is closed as there still is no Linux support.

Dunno about anyone else, but I don't have 5.5 hours to burn on a random YouTube video.

The video has timestamps with AMD issues split into roughly 4-minute sections which one can skip to.

But TL:DW: it won't happen, not even for proper Linux drivers

@stalkerg
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stalkerg commented Aug 27, 2023

@andyluo7 can you reopen this ticket? Maybe change the title and etc. As I understand, it's a Xilinx device, and we already have a driver, but maybe we should extend it a little. I understand that this specific demo is designed for Windows, but we can create the same thing for Gwenview for example (from KDE Desktop).

@quentonh
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Linux upvoted by chaudhariatul here

@chaudhariatul
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Kindly suggest which is an appropriate option from below, which will help with buying a mini pc:

  1. Linux will never be supported on 7040
  2. Linux support for 7040 after 5.6.2 or maybe 5.6.X
  3. Linux support with 8000 series

@quentonh quentonh reopened this Oct 20, 2023
@quentonh
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Re-opening issue so that customers can log their Linux requests.

@acwn1976
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@Alexander-LIT
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Alexander-LIT commented Oct 20, 2023

+1

@lilxandrias
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eta wen linux? can I help somehowow?

@gel-crabs
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+1

@quentonh
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eta wen linux? can I help somehowow?

The more weight behind this request, the faster it is likely to come to fruition.

@mikedahlgren
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@marcinx64
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+1

@bobo123g
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Adding my +1.

@Heryhelder
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My +1

@ccbadd
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ccbadd commented Oct 20, 2023

+1

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@SraamaR
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SraamaR commented Oct 20, 2023

+1

@mihalysleger
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+1 :)

@AwayB
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AwayB commented Oct 20, 2023

With AMD being the first to bring AI inference in consumer grade hardware, and a large amount of unknowns regarding the future of Windows (Windows 12 as a service? AI inference held on MS/OpenAI's servers?), it would be a great sign and an asset to PC ownership to support Ryzen AI on Linux to ensure access to AI in self-owned PCs with a free and open operating system.

btw, you can just add a thumb up emote on @quentonh's comment rather than all post empty +1 comments. It's cluttering the page very fast.

@d-avery
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d-avery commented Oct 20, 2023

I would also like this!

@Aartsie
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Aartsie commented Oct 20, 2023

Would like to run this on my new AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS laptop!

@Yamagi
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Yamagi commented Oct 20, 2023

+1

@kyflores
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kyflores commented Oct 20, 2023

+1 from me!

I think the AMD APUs are an interesting inference solution in the embedded space too for workloads that can't be fully accelerated and still benefit from the powerful Zen Cores, or standard x64 environment to run certain commercial software. If newer Ryzen Embedded products come with Ryzen AI enabled it could be an alternative to the Tegra platform in some situations too, or as an upgrade from the Xilinx Kria + DPU solution when more CPU power is needed than what's available on the ZU.

@Titaniumtown
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@littlewu2508
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Recently I also started learning about Xilinx runtime, it seems that ROCm hasn't cover it those hardware, but there is OpenCL runtime. Maybe that would be a starting point. And don't forget https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-ROCm-Xilinx -- is there any roadmap now about including FPGA into ROCm?

@miminashi
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@tuxedoste
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@StevenSeifried
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@tiggidi
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tiggidi commented Jan 24, 2024

+1

@spaceotter
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The linux driver is released: https://github.com/amd/xdna-driver

@vid
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vid commented Jan 25, 2024

ok we now all have to pile in and say "yay!"

@Kidlike
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Kidlike commented Jan 25, 2024

yay!

@quentonh
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@spaceotter This is fantastic news! Thanks for sharing!

@garloff
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garloff commented Jan 25, 2024 via email

@codewarrior6969
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codewarrior6969 commented Jan 26, 2024

Having AI support on Linux would prompt me to buy an AMD Linux laptop. My old i5 laptop is getting long in the tooth, and so it is my AM4. Probably going to get a Threadripper soon. Software drives chip sales, for sure.

+1 most definitely.

@dylangerdaly
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We asked! We received!

https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-XDNA-Linux-Driver-Ryzen-AI

yay!

Will take sometime to get the driver stable etc, and possibly some sort of plugin for pytorch but damn! Nice work!

@Dragomir-Ivanov
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You did it MFs! You did it! Awesome.
My T430s is refusing to die, but I will get Framework 13 AMD in a few months.
Thank you AMD!

@Danny3
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Danny3 commented Jan 27, 2024

Great!
AMD, please more / better Linux support in the future!
And BTW, many thanks!

@JustTemmie
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adding yet another +1 to this issue

@kk-1
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kk-1 commented Jan 27, 2024

Please, create distro-specific packages.
Why do we have to suffer to get sth to work on AMD?
I tried to install XRT on my 7940HS + openSuSE.
After about an hour had to stop.
No result!

@ganakee
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ganakee commented Feb 8, 2024

+1

Would like to see. Glad to have AMD GPU support in general on Linux. I now operate > 98% on Linux so Linux support is critical.

But a suggestion ...
if releasing a newer installer, please allow for more than ubuntu and debian distros in a debian-variant package.

Why? The ROCm amdgpu-installer installer, for example, makes is annoying and unnecessarily difficult to install AMD ROCm on a Linux distro such as the popular POP OS because the installer only "recognizes" ubuntu or debian. You need to manually edit the installer script to add |pop to the list of "recognized" distros for install.

savitha-srinivasan added a commit that referenced this issue Feb 16, 2024
@grigio
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grigio commented Feb 26, 2024

updates on this?

@JLP
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JLP commented Feb 26, 2024

Please, create distro-specific packages. Why do we have to suffer to get sth to work on AMD? I tried to install XRT on my 7940HS + openSuSE. After about an hour had to stop. No result!

Couldn't agree more. We have wonderful Open Build Service which can build packages for many popular GNU/Linux distributions. Please AMD, use it.

@A-Fellow-Comrade
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@vjr
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vjr commented Mar 13, 2024

Looks like some progress? -> https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-XDNA-Linux-Driver-Ryzen-AI

See https://github.com/amd/xdna-driver

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nonnull-ca commented Mar 15, 2024

It's disappointing that this is yet another full driver stack. Your competition has CUDA: Compute Unified Device Architecture - and indeed it supports practically everything from ancient laptops on up. In terms of effort versus reward, things target CUDA largely because they can port to it - using easily available hardware - once - and get fairly decent performance across a very large chunk of the market. (And then tune it later if necessary.)

Meanwhile, ROCm support is a minefield at best.

And this is adding yet another backend to port to. If you have a GreenArrays-style manycore tiled hardware accelerator - which so far as I can tell is essentially what this is once you unravel the hype - great. Add support for it. Don't expect that people will port everything to yet another niche software stack. Unless you want the self-fulfilling prophesy of "no-one knows how popular this will be or how long it will actually be supported for, so no-one ported code to it, so it goes unused, so the hardware gets silently ripped out a generation or two down the line".

@Dragomir-Ivanov
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@nonnull-ca I wish AMD understood this better. At least for the consumer market they are too late to the party. CUDA is everywhere, and they should support ZLUDA, and defend it from nv as much as possible.

@pjeroff
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pjeroff commented Mar 22, 2024

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mpapachristoforou commented Mar 28, 2024

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@Dan-Master
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@master255
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Hey users, don't you care that the processor has increased TDP after IPU activation and the source code is closed and it's not clear why we need it all?
#66

@tomchiverton
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Another voice for this. Even newer efforts like https://lmstudio.ai/ don't seem to support offload. They don't say if it's coming later or not at all either.

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isdennu commented May 2, 2024

+1

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