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I'll look at the data when I get a chance, but I was thinking about this, and I think it's risky to remove games from the all-time list. I don't think that a game being hidden, niche, or indie should mean it doesn't qualify for the list. But I do get your point, and I think my concern is partly down to this being difficult to put into words without it sounding like some games are worth more than others. I think the core of your idea comes from the number of reviews. The all-time list is useful, and perhaps there could be additional lists as well:
These are not necessarily the names to use, but you can see the split. Then, perhaps on the all-time list, we have a badge on each game that either says "Popular" or "Emerging" or something like that. There is another list that might be useful here too - Most divisive. Basically, the games that have the widest spread of scores. I have a calculation for those numbers but it's buried in a unit test and I never actually added it to the site. In short, let's not mess too much with the all-time list, but instead look at other lists that could be created to give more ways to see some of the top games on the Switch. |
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I wasn't clear: I didn't mean to remove or change the current "all-time bests"! I agree it's very useful ; just add a different list. "Top rated - most popular" sounds good! The "popular" badge is also a good idea. Divisive is also a very good idea! It crossed my mind once or twice when I saw a few games with scores ranging from 3 to 9 but I never thought to write it down. |
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OK, so we are saying the game thing :) Great. I can create the Most popular and Emerging favourites lists quite easily. The divisive list will take a bit longer to do but that can come later. |
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Continued from #24 (comment)
I see people buying a Switch with like Mario or Zelda, and asking "what else should I buy?" and they want "AAA" games, not "interesting indies".
The "top 100 all time" is good, but it mixes "must haves" (Mario, Zelda...) with games that would more fit in a "indie darlings" or "hidden gems", like 9th Dawn III (it has a very high rank but only 3 reviews) and very niche games like Moero Crystal H (an erotic dungeon crawler).
I thought about a tag, but maybe it shouldn't be a tag, and rather be based on the score but also the number of reviews ? Like top 50 games that are also in the top 50 in number of reviews ? It would certainly make the "big games that everyone talks about" stand out.
@benbarden answered:
I don't see many games that are really must-haves in this list.
Divinity 2 is very good but I rarely see anyone recommend it (and it's more a PC game). Assassin's Creed too, they're good games but getting old. Shovel Knight is a classic but not what I consider a "must have", it's still a retro indie.
The rest are indies, so it's not surprising they don't appear in a "must have" list. They're more "hidden gems", niche games, or "indie darlings".
What's the smallest number of reviews when you query the top 50
order by review_count desc?And then what do you get when you query the top 50 games
where review_count >= $reviews order by score desc? Just to see if the result has some sort of coherence.Beta Was this translation helpful? Give feedback.
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