Navigation Menu Draft #6092
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Thanks @UX-P Looks great! A few comments:
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I agree, and potentially more user friendly as it also replicates real world terms/phrases that could be easily understood by the onboarding and general bisq trader. |
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I think that this navigation hierarchy improves the understanding for new and existing users. Putting everything behind |
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Thanks for creating this. I think the two currency dropdowns on the main screen are confusing. Maybe there could just be one drop down at the top (like present) and then the currency can be displayed eg:
I like the Buy / Sell menus but think it might be good to include Fiat as a tab. Maybe a line of text similar to above. Buy BTC with ...... [Fiat/BSQ/XMR/Other] Maybe default is all markets? Also the 'Choose payment method' box should filer based on the currency selected. It does not do this in the current Bisq but would be better if it did. |
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But wouldn't that be what we have right now anyways? Besides putting the selection from the dropdown into the tab? The reason what I like about this new way of navigation is, that it reflects the intention of the buyer/seller. e.g. I want to buy BTC with SEPA Buy > BTC > Currency EUR + Payment method SEPA e.g. I want to sell XMR for BTC Sell > XMR > Altcoin Instant Or did you mean something else? |
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I think I was just meaning
Maybe add another slection... Buy BTC with ...... [Fiat/BSQ/XMR/Other] using [Any/Payment Method] eg
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Fiat is not a base currency and would not fit to the BUY/SELL terminology. E.g. We don't say "I buy EUR with BTC". |
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I do get @m52go's concerns about the navigational hierarchy, putting XMR or another coin on the same hierarchical level as BTC. So how about we do as suggested, but just move XMR also into the Doing like that we wouldn't take side, but still can improve the UX compared to what we have right now. Maybe we could improve it at a later point that users can configure whatever coin they want to have in this tab section. WDYT? |
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I think it would remove one of the goals of that proposal to make XMR more visible for newbies. XMR is 90% of trade volume so it clearly deserves a front seat IMO. |
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Lately it has been more in the 50% range [0]. I think the 90% is mostly from those brief periods of times whales came and trade 1-2 BTC at a time. With regards to the UX change, the vast majority of XMR traders who use Bisq already know that it can trade XMR. I talked to UX-P to try understanding their motivations and this whole thing seems like a solution in search of a problem based on unclear/questionable premises. [0]
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This data reinforces the fact that the BTC-Altcoin market on Bisq could benefit from a little more exposure on the UI. What is your feedback regarding the navigation design below? Buy/Sell > BTC/BSQ/Altcoins |
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I think that's great. It would be great to get a spotlight on BSQ. If BSQ got its own tab, there could even be a line or two about what BSQ is and why a user might want to get some. |
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In regards to the 'Market' tab I agree, and it is actually best to keep the landing page at its current state for now and prioritise the menu navigation, so we can leave it as is.
Without XMR or another altcoin on display, the design does not meet the objective of exposing the options available on Bisq and the term ‘other’ becomes ambiguous and less understandable. Alternatively, we could do: BTC/BSQ/Altcoins The term Altcoins is currently being used on Bisq so shouldn’t be unfamiliar or disturbing to the current Bisq user, it describes all other coins that aren’t BTC and it increases the visibility of all coins available on Bisq to trade using BTC, making this an easier journey for the new user. The only potential confusion would be that the payment method is also labelled as ‘Altcoins’ but shouldn’t be too much of an issue because as @chimp1984 mentioned, this method is used for all Altcoins and only XMR is associated with 'Altcoin Instant' therefore, the design could be simplified to this:
XMR will still require both:
I suggest aiming to get in an initial navigation design, set KPI’s measuring trading volume, error rate etc and we can report on any significant changes/feedback after a certain timeframe e.g. 3 months, then discuss the best course of action for any necessary improvements. |
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Implementation wise I can give it a quick shot today if I find any obstacles doing it like this. |
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Unfortunately took a while until I was able to work again on the new navigation. Finally I think I have everything covered except the adaptions for take and create offer. Old Navigation Fiat
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What about using "Bitcoin" and "Monero" instead of BTC and XMR in the sub tab menue? I think it would make it a bit less technical. |
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@chimp1984 I'm not sure if that works very well, BSQ cannot be changed to text and so it will appear inconsistent with the other options. |
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Yes, true.... |
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Should CLI also be updated? When I type: I'm getting CC: @ghubstan |
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For fiat/btc pairs, all offers are either buy btc or sell btc. The same applies to the bsq/btc pair. A buy offer is to buy btc with bsq, a sell offer is sell btc for bsq. It is less confusing if you keep in mind that any offer object's direction (buy/sell) always applies to btc. |
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Yes I understand it, however this nomenclature has been changed on UI - now you can buy BSQ, sell XMR etc. I don't have strong opinion whether it should be changed on CLI as well - just wanted to point it out. |
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I can change it if there is a consensus about to do so. And it will be a lot of work on API server, client, tests, and documentation. (A Big Project.) I try to explain |
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"A Big Project" : 😨 Not worth changing all the API upside down which is a lot of work. Ppl developing to the API can understand that everything is in BTC perspective. |
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We previously discussed the navigation adjustment and overall, the feedback seemed positive however, a usability test is still important to collect real insight from the appropriate target audience. In the meantime, I have created a quick Figma prototype for anyone to test out and provide feedback/suggestions.
Lo-fi Navigation Prototype
Things to consider:
If possible, think as a new user and complete various user journeys e.g.
Buy XMR using Altcoin/Altcoin instant
Sell/ buy BTC for US dollar/ EUR
Buy other Altcoin using Altcoin instant
Bisq contributor/ Stakeholder
Which currencies should be displayed?
Language: e.g. BTC to XMR
Any technical considerations?
Thoughts on time-box exercise as suggested by @chimp1984
@jmacxx @ripcurlx @chimp1984 @m52go
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