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Transactions with 0 gwei are back #1746

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wellgamer789 opened this issue Jul 1, 2023 · 7 comments
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Transactions with 0 gwei are back #1746

wellgamer789 opened this issue Jul 1, 2023 · 7 comments

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@wellgamer789
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wellgamer789 commented Jul 1, 2023

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Besides not respecting the official gwei ordering they are also allowing txs with gwei 0

https://bscscan.com/txs?block=29580008&p=8
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https://bscscan.com/address/0xd725701e179aab6787f70bf184db262f84c98913
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@brilliant-lx
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yea, unfortunately, the GasPrice is not a hard coded rule, it purely depends on the validator itself.
Generally, validators would pack transaction with high GasPrice to achieve its best interest.
Maybe we can take a second look on how GasPrice should work, to make it in protocol that transactions within a block should be ordered according their GasPrice?

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2019jack commented Jul 3, 2023

Hey @wellgamer789 guys, maybe you are also a bots competitor, but to explain it clearly, this is a bundle that contains multiple deals. some have 0gwei, but need to pay Gas fees for those with all 0's currently require that the bundle has an average Gas price greater than 3 Gwei. In these bundles, there are deals with 0 prices, but also deals with high Gas prices, so the total Gas price for the bundle is greater than 3.

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Hey @wellgamer789 guys, maybe you are also a bots competitor, but to explain it clearly, this is a bundle that contains multiple deals. some have 0gwei, but need to pay Gas fees for those with all 0's currently require that the bundle has an average Gas price greater than 3 Gwei. In these bundles, there are deals with 0 prices, but also deals with high Gas prices, so the total Gas price for the bundle is greater than 3.

Yes, he is paying more for the bundle because of the competition(which i do not participate), my doubt is the question of this possibility of getting txs validated with 0 gwei.

Is it possible some kind of "spam" or something with validators validating txs with 0 gwei? For example, i create large contracts in a transaction with 0 gwei and only pay for the inclusion of the bundle?

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2019jack commented Jul 3, 2023

Hey @wellgamer789 guys, maybe you are also a bots competitor, but to explain it clearly, this is a bundle that contains multiple deals. some have 0gwei, but need to pay Gas fees for those with all 0's currently require that the bundle has an average Gas price greater than 3 Gwei. In these bundles, there are deals with 0 prices, but also deals with high Gas prices, so the total Gas price for the bundle is greater than 3.

Yes, he is paying more for the bundle because of the competition(which i do not participate), my doubt is the question of this possibility of getting txs validated with 0 gwei.

Is it possible some kind of "spam" or something with validators validating txs with 0 gwei? For example, i create large contracts in a transaction with 0 gwei and only pay for the inclusion of the bundle?

According to the latest packaging transaction rules, it seems that no validator can verify transactions with 0 gas

@wellgamer789
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According to the latest packaging transaction rules, it seems that no validator can verify transactions with 0 gas

they are also allowing txs with gwei 0
https://bscscan.com/txs?block=29580008&p=8 image

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Looks like they saw this issue and fixed

@Uri-Margalit-bloXroute
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We fixed the issue of 0gwei transactions within a bundle, the gasprice of the bundle itself was more than 3gwei.
We now don't allow 0gwei transactions within a bundle and also checking the avg of the bundle gas price is higher than 3

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