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IMS, Meteo-France: Apparent temperature is called "Wind chill" (regardless of whether or not it is a wind chill) #1129

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elydpg opened this issue Jun 13, 2024 · 9 comments
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elydpg commented Jun 13, 2024

Steps to reproduce

  1. Add a location that supports the Israel Meterological Service, or add a location with source "Meteo-France"
  2. Click on a day in the daily forecast and check the Apparent temperature

Expected behavior

Apparent temperature should be called "Apparent", as in Open-Meteo (this is the neutral name as it doesn't depend on why the apparent and actual temperature differ)

Screenshot_20240613-133210_Breezy Weather

Actual behavior

Apparent temperature is called "Wind chill" (even though there is obviously no wind chill in this example)

Screenshot_20240613-133233_Breezy Weather
Screenshot_20240613-133252_Breezy Weather

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Israel Meterological Service, Meteo-France

Breezy Weather version

5.2.4 standard

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13

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Samsung Galaxy s10e

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papjul commented Jun 13, 2024

Météo France doesn't provide apparent temperature, only wind chill. I seem to recall that's the same thing with IMS. I confirm that's the same thing with IMS.

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elydpg commented Jun 13, 2024

Odd; that article definitely mentions apparent temperature due to humidex 🤷

And there's of course no problem having it populate the "feels like" data on the main screen, in which it's obvious that this is not a wind chill:

Screenshot_20240613-144515_Breezy Weather.png

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papjul commented Jun 13, 2024

IMS and Méteo France are part of the same organization for weather in Europe.

Based on that article, I wouldn't be surprised they use a tweaked formula that switch between wind chill and heat index depending on the conditions. If that's the case, they are provided unified, and there is no distinction between the two.

The article doesn't mention apparent temperature.

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elydpg commented Jun 13, 2024

Is "apparent temperature" as reported by open meteo something different than wind chill and humidex?

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papjul commented Jun 13, 2024

They call it "apparent temperature", so I believe it's the same formula as in #1085. But don't trust me, check the Open-Meteo source code for yourself. In either case, if they call it "apparent temperature", it should belong in the "apparent temperature" section.

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elydpg commented Jun 21, 2024

Should this be transferred to a discussion? I don't see why it is stale or what more info is needed

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papjul commented Jun 21, 2024

You reported it as a bug, but I don't see any bug, it is correctly reported as wind chill, which is what IMS and Météo-France sources claim it is. And I don't see any matter that would require continuing in a discussion.

Please let us know what bug we may have missed, or close the issue if it's all good.

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elydpg commented Jun 21, 2024

Sounds like it's a source issue then; closing

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