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Code Optional: A podcast about the trials and tribulations of building software

Three engineering comrades – Andrew Sardone, Kevin Vitale, and Chris Dzombak – talk about development, design, and shipping apps. There’s a heavy slant towards Apple tech, balanced with general inquiries around programming and the intricacies/inanities of software.

Andrew Sardone

Andrew is an Ann Arbor-based software engineer that spends most of his time working on Nutshell.

Kevin Vitale

Kevin is a Cocoa developer working in Ann Arbor, MI. He currently develops mobile software at Duo Security. Past accomplishments include Copy, Domino's Pizza, and becoming a dad.

Chris Dzombak

Chris is a software engineer in beautiful Ann Arbor. He's working on Nutshell now, plus some personal stuff. He previously lived in Brooklyn and worked on NYT Now.

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