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Make old revisions easier to discover #2376

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splitbrain opened this issue May 7, 2018 · 7 comments · Fixed by #2510
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Make old revisions easier to discover #2376

splitbrain opened this issue May 7, 2018 · 7 comments · Fixed by #2510

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@splitbrain
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When a page does not exist, we show the newpage.txt message. However when a page once existed, but then was deleted, we show the same message.

Inspired by the discussions in #2370, I think it would make sense to explicitly tell users that the page they are looking for no longer exists.

Example:

======= This page does not exist anymore ======

You've followed a link to a page that no longer exists. You can check the list of [[?do=revisions|old revisions]] to see when and why it was deleted, access old revisions or restore it.
@Michaelsy
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Good idea! This lack of information I noticed already too.

I think a better concept could be "purged" not "deleted" or "does not exist".

@Klap-in
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Klap-in commented May 7, 2018

So far I know 'purge' means to remove thoroughly, while 'delete' means remove.

The idea of the wiki is that is should not be completely thoroughly erase the page, without keeping it somewhere... . So does 'delete' not fit better for a page that is restorable?

@Michaelsy
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All what I "know" is what Leo writes: German translations: Leo:purge Leo remove Leo:delete

So far I Leo understand: If something is purged it is empty from something (maybe thoroughly).

What is the apperception of the user? I guess the page is for him, what he see on the screen.

@splitbrain
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@Michaelsy maybe you're not the best person to give advice on English wording? Or to quote yourself: "auf Englisch zu schreiben ist für mich so [...] anstrengend und mühsam"

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Michaelsy commented May 7, 2018

maybe you're not the best person to give advice on English wording

{off-topic} I wrote "I think ... could ... " The best person for advicing is surely an english native speaker.

Auf englisch zu schreiben ist vor allem deshalb so mühsam für mich, weil ich es oft viel zu perfekt machen möchte und jedes zweite Wort dreimal bei Leo nachschlage. Aber mittlerweile habe ich mir schon etwas mehr Mut zur Lücke beigebracht... {/off-topic}

SCNR: to empty sth.

Update: I agree.

@lpaulsen93
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======= This page does not exist anymore ======
You've followed a link to a page that no longer exists. ...

IMHO the header and the first sentence of the message make it very clear. Nothing to improve from my side.

@Michaelsy
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... access old revisions or restore it.

Of course this makes it very clear.

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