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https://www.nimiq.com and other related URLs being blocked #2618

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MatthewDLudwig opened this issue Jan 7, 2019 · 6 comments
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https://www.nimiq.com and other related URLs being blocked #2618

MatthewDLudwig opened this issue Jan 7, 2019 · 6 comments

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@MatthewDLudwig
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MatthewDLudwig commented Jan 7, 2019

List the website(s) you're having issues:

||nimiq.com^$third-party
||nimiq.watch^$third-party
||nimiqchain.info^$third-party
||nimiqpool.com^$third-party
||nimiqtest.net^$third-party
||nimpool.io^$third-party
||sushipool.com^$third-party

What happens?

The above rules, as well as a few I probably missed, are blocking critical components necessary for the Nimiq blockchain to function. It's a blockchain written in JS that allows mining in the browser, and both the team and community are dedicated to preventing abuse such as botnets and secret background mining. All of the reports we've heard thus far are from users who legitimately wanted to mine Nimiq either on the main site "miner.nimiq.com" or on their own site (with some way of notifying their users) by trying to load the code from "cdn.nimiq.com".

If you could consider unblocking these URLs completely (preferred), or possibly creating a blockchain category of URLs so users could easily opt out of having them blocked without turning off the blocker altogether that'd be amazing. Right now the only advice we can give users in the community is that they need to turn off all adblockers and that's both unfortunate (as ad blockers are quite useful) and a new development (as these URLs weren't blocked 6 months ago).

List Subscriptions you're using:

I personally use Brave and that's where most of the reports we receive come from. According to https://brave.com/blog/the-mounting-cost-of-stale-ad-blocking-rules/ easylist is one of the lists used to check for ads, and of the 3 included in that blog post only easylist blocks Nimiq URLs.

Your settings

Brave includes a neat UI showing separately which ads, cookies, scripts, and trackers were blocked. The blocked Nimiq related URLs always show up in the ads section of the list, and turning off Brave Shields stops the URLs from being blocked.

  • OS/version: Windows 10
  • Browser/version: Brave | 0.58.18 Chromium: 71.0.3578.98 (Official Build) (64-bit)
  • Adblock Extension/version: Same as above

Other details:

https://github.com/easylist/easylist/blob/master/easyprivacy/easyprivacy_trackingservers.txt is the list responsible for the URLs being blocked as I understand it.

@Khrin
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Khrin commented Jan 7, 2019

I don't see why our rules should be removed.

@Khrin Khrin closed this as completed Jan 7, 2019
@MatthewDLudwig
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Thanks for considering my proposal, however I expected a completely different response whether the answer was yes or no. You were dismissive, didn't explain your points, and immediately closed the issue after commenting.

I'll respect the rules laid out and not create further issues (or even push this one further) but I will be discontinuing my usage of easylist and easyprivacy, alongside recommending anyone who'll listen to do the same. My decision has nothing to do with your refusal to unblock the URLs (as I expected it due to the connotation surrounding browser miners), but instead with how you dealt with my request.

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moracha commented Feb 8, 2019

As an outsider, and fan of NIMIQ, this was an appalling response by Easylist. Goes to show the power wielded by adblockers may not be in the right hands if requests like this one concerning a legitimate website are dismissed as easily as this. Users like myself are fully aware NIMIQ doesn't belong in "advertising" or "spam" classifications. Disappointing.

@Bettelstab
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@Khrin Could you please elaborate on why you think legitimate use of Nimiq should be prohibited?

@brantje
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brantje commented Feb 12, 2019

@Khrin Any explanation why you won't remove it would be nice.

@alecthomas28
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Google brought me here to see why nimiq ended up on a blocklist. Thoroughly unprofessional response by @Khrin . How does nimiq end up on a privacy focused blocklist? I am failing to make the connection based on the description of this list.

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EasyPrivacy is an optional supplementary filter list that completely removes all forms of tracking from the internet, including web bugs, tracking scripts and information collectors, thereby protecting your personal data.

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