Government should be listed per planet in the map UI

[brendanjones]

You can't tell who owns what planet on the map UI. Government is listed as a system-wide attribute, so in systems with planets owned by more than one government, you can't tell who owns what planet from the map. This is an unnecessary limitation as it's simple to list the government per-planet on the map UI.

it should be clear to players why they have differing levels of access to/reputation with two planets in the same system.

Any reasons to not do it?

[Zitchas]

It is a good idea, although it might be best if it was optional. By this I mean some way to specify how things show up, as I can think of different situations where showing the government on each planet would be best; and the vast majority of situations where just having it on the system is easiest.

[Zireael07]

I'd list gov't per system if all planets are owned by it, and only list per planet if there are outliers, such as the example you cite.

[brendanjones]

I'd list gov't per system if all planets are owned by it, and only list per planet if there are outliers, such as the example you cite.

I like this for simplicity’s sake, though it does mean inconsistent placement of info in the UI. @Zitchas a ‘lore’ question: are systems always owned by one species/faction, even if another owns a planet within that system? If so then I’d say always display the system-level ownership, and also display ownership per-planet if more than one government owns a planet in the system.

[Zitchas]

I would tentatively say no, and for the lore I would say that were definitely should not be ruling out the possibility of contested systems without a clear "this system is owned by X"

[brendanjones]

for the lore I would say that were definitely should not be ruling out the possibility of contested systems without a clear "this system is owned by X"

that was what I expected, and it makes sense to me.

[MasterOfGrey]

I have a simpler proposal that doesn't use up more UI space - simply have the government name for the system and the planet names all be coloured their respective government colours.
It's not the most colour-blind friendly option, but even to those people it should be pretty clear most of the time if one of them stands out different to the others.

[brendanjones]

You can also click on the government of the system in "Ports" view.

Huh, nothing happens when I click on that. That would indeed be a more logical place to click to unearth the governments view. I presume that's where the link is supposed to be? If so then I need to open a bug report ...

[quyykk]

Huh, nothing happens when I click on that

That's because you are presumably on a fairly recent commit. This is a known bug fixed by #7072.

[brendanjones]

To fix up those colours I'd do something like this. @mOctave is that discussion happening somewhere else? Seems like there's more to be done that just what's in #7186 .

Coalition | #0693e3 | Light blue
Free Worlds | #087c42 | Dark green
Hai | #512da8 | Dark purple
Hai Unfettered | #9575cd | Light purple
Heliarch | #ff699b | Light pink
Korath | #880035 | Dark pink
Kor Efret | #0097a7 | Teal
Kor Mereti | #ffc107 | Light orange
Kor Sestor | #e65100 | Dark orange
Pirate | #ff0000 | Red
Pug | #FBFAF0 | White/cream
Quarg | #ffe500 | Yellow
Remnant | #c2185b | Middle pink
Republic | #ff9800 | Middle orange
Syndicate | #80 | Dark blue (that's 000080, GH is reading it as an issue link)
Wanderer | #4caf50 | Light green

[mOctave]

@brendanjones No, I only opened that issue to deal with the Hai/Unfettered colour similarity.

[mOctave]

@brendanjones Although serious changes to the colours would help with accessibility, I don't think they would be a good idea overall for a few reasons:

• Several of the colours are very different from the colours that those governments currently use. This means that anyone who has been playing the game using the government map for a long time will be very confused when the Coalition, Free Worlds, Hai, Kor Mereti, and Syndicate undergo serious changes in colour.
• Plugin authors have chosen colours for new factions to fit the current colour scheme. Large changes could cause conflicts with plugin faction colours.
• Right now, each species' faction has a specific look: humans are bold and vibrant, Coalition and Heliarch systems have a pinkish colour that goes well with the colour of their ships, Korath systems are all fairly dark-coloured, etc. This new colour scheme would break that for all species except the Pug, Wanderers, and Hai.
• Some of the darker colours you suggest would blend in with the background. Conversely, some of the brighter colours (like Pirate), are more garish than those around them. This isn't a major issue, but it would need some work.

Also, a couple of things I'd like to point out that aren't objections but should probably be considered:

• You don't have the Drak included in your list. They don't control any systems (at least not in 0.9.14), but they do use a white colour, which should be accounted for, just in case plugins or future versions of ES give the Drak control over systems. Also, if contested systems are introduced (like Zitchas mentioned in response to Zireal's comment above), there might end up being a new colour for contested systems which would also have to be taken into account.
• In general, players who use the government-based colours will start to memorize them, encountering only a few at a time. The factions with similar colours are generally spaced far enough apart that it isn't a big issue, and most players who find those factions know more or less where they are anyways. The Hai are unlikely to control a system near Remnant space, therefore it's probably okay that the colours are similar.
• Eventually, we're going to run out of obviously different colours as we fill the galaxy with new factions. At that point, keeping colours unique will become harder and harder to do while still having the colours look good.

Overall, I think it would be a better idea to keep the colours fairly similar to what they are already, but some colour changes (Hai and Unfettered, Kor Efret and Kor Mereti, maybe a few others) could be helpful. I'd love to hear some other opinions on this, though, as this might just be me wanting everything to stay the same forever.