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There's an option ignored by the story to stealthily discover the Alpha ship in Host without being detected #1647
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It's important to note that particle effects are not sampled in red like cloaked ships, implying that effects like the ones made by jump drives are not cloaked, and so the Alphas would be able to detect your entrance anyway. |
Yeah, it's heavily implied that you're totally invisible while cloaked, barring some yet-to-be-announced super cloaked-ship detector technology that the Quarg probably have. |
You're not totally invisible, according to Alastair Korban. You are vulnerable to gravitational sensors. |
in the title, "Hope" you mean Host? |
Er, yes, Host. |
It's not currently possible for a mission to determine if the player is cloaked, only that they have a cloak, and having a cloak doesn't guarantee that you're using it. There's also the possibility of the player having escorts which aren't cloaked, so I'm really not sure how a mission could reasonably check all that it would need to check to have being cloaked have an impact on the story. Not to say that I don't like the idea of the game's story being more responsive to your action, because I like this idea, but I don't see it being something we implement any time soon. This issue might need further consideration to decide whether it's worth the effort to implement a whole new mechanic for missions checking if you 1) enter a system cloaked, 2) remain cloaked, and 3) land while cloaked. Perhaps something like #5248 could do, but instead of triggering actions based off of an NPC's status change, we do so for the player's ships. The mission syntax for that would need to be discussed, though. Perhaps something like this:
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What if it were possible to base this off of if the player or any if their ships ever became targetable to the npc? |
Could you do this with a timer ship? Have an invisible ship in the system hostile to the player but friendly to the alphas which will target and shoot at anything it's able to see, killing itself in the process. If we think that would work, I can take a crack at this. I respect that is a hacky solution though, so if we'd rather just wait until we have proper syntax to support this kind of thing before making a mission like this, I understand that as well. |
At that point in your life, your flagship probably has a cloaking device. If you bring a single ship, stuff it to the gills with Wanderer Ramscoops and fly cloaked the entire time, then it's quite simple to discover the Giftbringer undetected. This is what I did, in fact, because the Korath ships were way too tough for me (I defeated the Giftbringer primarily with Thunderheads).
Later on in the mission, Danforth mentions that if you had discovered the Alphas and then returned for reinforcements without destroying the Giftbringer, they would have been alerted to your presence and fled, with more alive. But not if you were cloaked when you discovered them and left without fighting! Seems like a missed opportunity: if you had the option to discover the ship while cloaked and return for reinforcements without being seen, then you could bring the planetary invasion force and destroy the occupied base right after fighting the Giftbringer in orbit.
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