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Always show publisher, regardless of how many apps have been published by them. #1656

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RokeJulianLockhart opened this issue Jul 5, 2023 · 11 comments

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@RokeJulianLockhart
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RokeJulianLockhart commented Jul 5, 2023

At https://snapcraft.io/blender, I can click the publisher's name and see its published apps:

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https://snapcraft.io/publisher/blenderfoundation

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...whereas https://flathub.org/apps/page.codeberg.libre_menu_editor.LibreMenuEditor doesn't despite stating who/what the publisher is:

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...and Blender in https://flathub.org/apps/org.blender.Blender doesn't even show a publisher!

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JakobDev commented Jul 5, 2023

At https://snapcraft.io/blender, I can click the publisher's name and see its published apps

You can do this on Flathub as well. If the same Publisher has more Apps you can see all others. Take for Gedit, which is a Gnome App.

whereas https://flathub.org/apps/page.codeberg.libre_menu_editor.LibreMenuEditor doesn't despite stating who/what the publisher is

The Publisher is libre-menu-editor. I don't know why he uses his App Name as Username.

and Blender in https://flathub.org/apps/org.blender.Blender doesn't even show a publisher!

This is an Issue with the Blender Flatpak

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razzeee commented Jul 5, 2023

We actually create the pages for these for e.g. https://flathub.org/apps/collection/developer/libre-menu-editor/1

But as approximatly 98% of devs only have one app right now, it's really not that useful at all and would only waste space/confuse users. IMO.

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@razzeee, how would exposing this confuse them? Every other app store does it and I've never even heard it mentioned.

@RokeJulianLockhart RokeJulianLockhart changed the title Allow viewing a publisher's published apps. Show publisher's published apps regardless of how many have been published by the publisher. Jul 5, 2023
@RokeJulianLockhart RokeJulianLockhart changed the title Show publisher's published apps regardless of how many have been published by the publisher. Always show publisher, regardless of how many apps have been published by them. Jul 5, 2023
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razzeee commented Jul 5, 2023

You want to guide people and don't show them useless stuff as it might lead them to exit the page.

Looking at how the playstore does it, it's pretty clear to me, that they have designed themselves into a corner at some point. There seems to be a new way that developers that have some kind of account are listed in, which is nice, with description and all. And there is the other (presumably) legacy way, where they have just a list with no explanation and a confusing search term.

We don't have the means to do the good version of it, we don't have descriptions for developers. This might improve over time, but right now we almost only have what's in appstream, which is just a string, where anybody can set anything.

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razzeee commented Sep 27, 2023

I'll close this, as we can't do anything meaningful here

@razzeee razzeee closed this as not planned Won't fix, can't repro, duplicate, stale Sep 27, 2023
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aiqc commented Jan 15, 2024

I was delighted when I stumbled upon boxes by gnome.

It made me wonder, what other apps might gnome have available on flathub? However, clicking on their name brought me to an independent homepage unrelated to flathub, which is not at all what I expected. In fact, this link distracted me from scrolling down to see "other apps by gnome." This external link being placed next to the internal badge is doubly confusing.

It would be nice if clicking on their name went to a page for the author. The link to their independent homepage could be within that page. It would help build trust in the publisher.

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Happy to make this a separate issue if need be

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razzeee commented Jan 15, 2024

you would want to click the by The GNOME Project as that's the author information. The latter is verification specific and doesn't exist for most apps.

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aiqc commented Jan 15, 2024

@razzeee this also raises the question of "why have two names listed under the app?"

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razzeee commented Jan 15, 2024

It's not really the name, there are some custom rules for KDE and Gnome to prettify it for them, but otherwise it's an url.

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Or a text hinting at a source code provider

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razzeee commented Jan 15, 2024

I think it's 50/50

  1. this asks for the same link the comment asks for
  2. the comment also wants to cleanup confusion with the verification display, that's a different issue

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