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<h1>despite best efforts .NET is still not an open platform</h1>
<h2 style="color: purple">problem: <a href="https://github.com/omnisharp/omnisharp-vscode/issues/5276">ramming in a proprietary extension to continue to lockdown .NET.</a></h2>
distinguished engineer and founder of mono:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After last year's debacle, I authored a paper to address the question "What should we do instead of shooting ourselves in the foot?" - now we know, it soared like a lead balloon.</p>— Miguel de Icaza (@migueldeicaza) <a href="https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1537178691218046976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Everyone I admire in DevDiv opposes these terrible ideas, including Tim.</p>— Miguel de Icaza (@migueldeicaza) <a href="https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1537214636126347265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over time, the .NET platform is becoming closed, to ensure it is only useful if you are a customer.</p>— Miguel de Icaza (@migueldeicaza) <a href="https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1537191873189650435?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<h2 style="color: purple">problem: <a href="https://github.com/dotnet/core/issues/505">an open programming language is missing a debugger</a></h2>
<br/>two microsoft employees:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More people should be pissed off about the debugger situation</p>— Jo Shields (@directhex) <a href="https://twitter.com/directhex/status/1452054531760697344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<br/>distinguished engineer and founder of mono:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And we should start with the debugger: we should integrate the Samsung one, it should be the default for OmniSharp and this is now we get contributions and improvements- not by ceding terrain to someone that can change the rules to their advantage at will.</p>— Miguel de Icaza (@migueldeicaza) <a href="https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1537783333731454982?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<h2 style="color: purple">problem: <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/22/22740701/microsoft-dotnet-hot-reload-removal-decision-open-source">leadership decision to remove hotreload angers community and devdiv employees</a></h2>
<br/>director of .net at unity games:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just a week before we were going to have a meeting with .NET teams to talk about Unity's future with .NET...<br>That's not a good signal sent for rebooting our partnership...<br>Please <a href="https://twitter.com/Julie_LGreen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Julie_LGreen</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/matvelloso?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@matvelloso</a>, reconsider this last minute revert for .NET 6 🙏 <a href="https://t.co/R6EaGpaVKR">https://t.co/R6EaGpaVKR</a></p>— Alexandre Mutel (@xoofx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xoofx/status/1451780088815669249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<br/>a leaked internal microsoft memo within devdiv:<br/>
- <a href="http://pastebin.com/RF6015kv">http://pastebin.com/RF6015kv</a><br/>
<br/>community:<br/>
- <a href="https://dusted.codes/can-we-trust-microsoft-with-open-source">https://dusted.codes/can-we-trust-microsoft-with-open-source</a><br/>
- <a href="https://nequalsonelifestyle.com/2021/10/23/dotnet-disappointment/">https://nequalsonelifestyle.com/2021/10/23/dotnet-disappointment/</a><br/>
- <a href="https://atrauzzi.github.io/its-time-for-net-to-leave-home">https://atrauzzi.github.io/its-time-for-net-to-leave-home</a><br/>
- <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28988926">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28988926</a><br/>
<h2 style="color: purple">problem: <a href="https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/05/microsoft_net_foundation_under_fire/">.NET foundation serves the interests of Microsoft</a></h2>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I feel sick to my stomach right now.<br><br>In the last two weeks, someone at <a href="https://twitter.com/dotnetfdn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dotnetfdn</a> moved <a href="https://twitter.com/wixtoolset?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wixtoolset</a> into the .NET Foundation's private GitHub Enterprise.<br><br>They did so after I explicitly told them I did not trust them enough to make them an admin in our project.<br><br>I feel betrayed.</p>— Rob Mensching (@robmen) <a href="https://twitter.com/robmen/status/1445521876688654340?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s a similar story for FluentValidation, I was surprised to see that the <a href="https://twitter.com/dotnetfdn?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dotnetfdn</a> moved the repo to underneath their GitHub org without consent. Makes me very uncomfortable. <a href="https://t.co/lgWlZR9Ovx">https://t.co/lgWlZR9Ovx</a></p>— Jeremy Skinner (@JeremySkinner) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeremySkinner/status/1445272800185495555?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-center"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And not only that, we told organizations, teams, companies and third parties to give their copyright to the .NET foundation - this special case has never been really kosher, but paired with a land grab it is insulting.</p>— Miguel de Icaza (@migueldeicaza) <a href="https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1537784358290989056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
- <a href="https://rodneylittlesii.com/posts/topic/foundation-echo-chamber">https://rodneylittlesii.com/posts/topic/foundation-echo-chamber</a></br>
- <a href="https://www.glennwatson.net/posts/dnf-problems-solutions">https://www.glennwatson.net/posts/dnf-problems-solutions</a></br>
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