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More people should know about and use Tilde #56

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mykolav opened this issue Nov 21, 2019 · 13 comments
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More people should know about and use Tilde #56

mykolav opened this issue Nov 21, 2019 · 13 comments

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@mykolav
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mykolav commented Nov 21, 2019

Hello,
This isn't really a bug report.

Thank you for Tilde. It's an awesome TUI editor.

I can't believe this project has only 30 stars while micro has over 11000.
Of course, micro is a great editor! But to me Tilde is literally everything micro set out to be and so much more. E. g., micro still doesn't have replace in selection.

Here's a wild guess: people are put off by the default Norton Commander style color scheme.
Objectively speaking, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the NC-style colors. But I bet a lot of people don't even bother to install and give Tilde a chance once they see the colors on a screenshot...

Please consider switching the default colors to something a bit more hipster-friendly :) Monokai, maybe? Tilde doesn't even need to implement themes as such -- just change the defaults. And then upload screenshots with the new colors instead of the old ones :)

I really hope this projects gets more popular, as it deserves to be!

@gphalkes
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Thank you for your support! You might have a point that the default color scheme is not appealing to a number of people. There is one complicating factor, which is that a color scheme that appeals to more people will probably need to use the 256 color palette, and that is not always available. So I'm trying to figure out a way to deal with this problem, such that even the 8/16 color scheme looks (more) appealing. This is something that needs to be figured out for themes in general, so it's good to work on that now.

@tjaacks
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tjaacks commented Nov 25, 2019

I can confirm that the blue background per default is a killer. On every machine I install tilde on, the first thing I do is change the background color to black.

@nevillepark
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For a more appealing default theme, maybe just the mono colour scheme with a few tweaks?

@aaronsb
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aaronsb commented May 14, 2020

I, too am surprised that tilde isn't more widely known. I think working on the colors (look at vs code for example) would help push the popularity a bit more.

@dr-dba
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dr-dba commented Oct 21, 2020

Just my personal stupid note:
i am heavy user of FAR, and i am pretty OK and like classic blue of Norton and FAR.
would put it to the end of all other priorities.
just note

@AnmolRajTiwari
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AnmolRajTiwari commented Jun 29, 2021

I can confirm that the blue background per default is a killer. On every machine I install tilde on, the first thing I do is change the background color to black.

Hi @tjaacks Tim , could you let me know how to change the default background. Didn't get much help from google.

@tjaacks
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tjaacks commented Jun 29, 2021

I can confirm that the blue background per default is a killer. On every machine I install tilde on, the first thing I do is change the background color to black.

Hi @tjaacks Tim , could you let me know how to change the default background. Didn't get much help from google.

@AnmolRajTiwari see #45.

@nevillepark
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I, too am surprised that tilde isn't more widely known. I think working on the colors (look at vs code for example) would help push the popularity a bit more.

Here's the colour scheme I've settled on, which works well with the Elementary terminal's dark theme:

Screenshot from 2022-01-23 23 52 53

From ~/.config/tilde/config:

attributes {
	brace_highlight = ( "bold" )
	button_selected = ( "fg 253", "bg blue", "bold" )
	dialog = ( "fg black", "bg white" )
	dialog_selected = ( "fg white", "bg black", "bold" )
	hotkey_highlight = ( "fg blue", "underline", "bold" )
	menubar = ( "fg white", "bg black" )
	menubar_selected = ( "fg blue", "bg black", "reverse" )
	meta_text = ( "fg default", "dim" )
	non_print = ( "dim" )
	scrollbar = ( "fg black", "bg 8" )
	shadow = ( "fg default", "bg black", "dim" )
	text = ( "bg default" )
	text_cursor = ( "fg blue", "bg 253", "reverse", "blink" )
	text_selected = ( "fg 253", "bg 12" )
	text_selection_cursor2 = ( "fg 253", "bg 39" )
	text_selection_cursor = ( "fg 253" )
	}

It only needs a little adjustment to work well with a light theme:

Screenshot from 2022-01-23 23 57 37

attributes {
	brace_highlight = ( "bold" )
	button_selected = ( "fg 253", "bg blue", "bold" )
	dialog = ( "fg black", "bg white" )
	dialog_selected = ( "fg white", "bg black", "bold" )
	hotkey_highlight = ( "fg blue", "underline", "bold" )
	menubar = ( "fg black", "bg white" )
	menubar_selected = ( "fg blue", "bg black", "reverse" )
	meta_text = ( "fg default", "dim" )
	non_print = ( "dim" )
	scrollbar = ( "fg black", "bg 8" )
	shadow = ( "fg default", "bg black", "dim" )
	text = ( "bg default" )
	text_cursor = ( "fg blue", "bg 253", "reverse", "blink" )
	text_selected = ( "fg 253", "bg 12" )
	text_selection_cursor2 = ( "fg 253", "bg 39" )
	text_selection_cursor = ( "fg 253" )
}

I wonder if a script could be used to just substitute in "themes". No idea how to do it myself though.

@efa
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efa commented Aug 3, 2022

I think a Wikipedia article should get more visibility. Then add to Comparison of Text Editor will do the rest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors

@Ganton
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Ganton commented May 9, 2023

To an answer on https://askubuntu.com/questions/920147/what-editor-can-i-use-as-a-simple-vi-vim-alternative/1413069#1413069 I tried adding a screenshot of Tilde (the one from https://github.com/gphalkes/tilde/), but on https://askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/1293268 the change was rejected (arguing that "This edit deviates from the original intent of the post. Even edits that must make drastic changes should strive to preserve the goals of the post's owner."). (??? . Also, other answers have screenshots)

Maybe someone else can try it and have better luck.

@efa
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efa commented May 9, 2023

To an answer on https://askubuntu.com/questions/920147/what-editor-can-i-use-as-a-simple-vi-vim-alternative/1413069#1413069

I saw Tilde is already in prev Reply from June 2022. I added there the link to screenshot

@mykolav
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mykolav commented May 9, 2023

Upvoted the answer recommending tilde.

@mykolav
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mykolav commented May 10, 2023

@Ganton

Maybe someone else can try it and have better luck.

Looks like I got lucky. My edits have been accepted. Added a screenshot and a bit of details about Tilde.
That answer looks like this now.
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