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SGX is deprecated and not available in majority of Sapphire Rapids #351

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matti opened this issue Jun 21, 2023 · 12 comments
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SGX is deprecated and not available in majority of Sapphire Rapids #351

matti opened this issue Jun 21, 2023 · 12 comments
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matti commented Jun 21, 2023

Running utils/check-tdx-host.sh gives me

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Isn't SGX deprecated? I can't find any place to enable it in Asus Pro WS W790E-SAGE SE latest bios.

This is all "SGX" there is:

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And at https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/233484/intel-xeon-w32423-processor-15m-cache-2-10-ghz/specifications.html

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Same with for example https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/233481/intel-xeon-w52445-processor-26-25m-cache-3-10-ghz.html

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matti commented Jun 22, 2023

@kenplusplus so in other words, are you saying that the majority of sapphire rapids processors are not TDX compatible at all?

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@kenplusplus so in other words, are you saying that the majority of sapphire rapids processors are not TDX compatible at all?

Sorry, I do not know the product features definition or timeline. For SGX, I think at least you can refer above official link. TDX feature depends on SGX.

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matti commented Jun 22, 2023

In this project you consistently refer and point to vague white papers - stop doing this.

Instead, list the concrete CPUs that will support tdx-tools.

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matti commented Jun 22, 2023

Now if I purchase a CPU from that list then there will be another feature missing on that.

Just list concrete processors that will work and are tested.

Thank you.

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In this project you consistently refer and point to vague white papers - stop doing this.

Instead, list the concrete CPUs that will support tdx-tools.

Understand your point, thanks for your feedback. I have no more information about product or feature here. Could you please contact the vendor or sale representee on this?

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matti commented Jun 22, 2023

Which CPUs are you using to test tdx-tools?

@matti matti changed the title SGX is deprecated and not available in Sapphire Rapids SGX is deprecated and not available in majority of Sapphire Rapids Jun 22, 2023
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kenplusplus commented Jun 22, 2023

Sorry to bring frustration to you. But I am not the correct person to answer product infomration.
I used the processor followed by What Intel® Xeon Processors Support for Intel® Trust Domain Extensions (Intel® TDX)?

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matti commented Jun 22, 2023

I am asking for what CPUs is the team using to test tdx-tools internally. It's a reasonable ask.

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I am asking for what CPUs is the team using to test tdx-tools internally. It's a reasonable ask.

sorry, I could not share internal information here.

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matti commented Jun 22, 2023

So only a handful of Xeons might work - for example Intel Xeon Bronze 3408U and Xeon Silver 4410Y

Most of the sapphire rapids cpus just won't work because of the missing SGX.

This is, before I purchase Intel Xeon Bronze 3408U and learn that there is something else missing.

Related #353

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matti commented Jul 5, 2023

Basically no Sapphire Rapids supports TDX - Emerald Rapids will, see #399

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